Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 3:45 PM UTC

dj_mc_merlin wrote: post #49

> We also need to operate with a growth mindset in GDS Is it just me or is it weird to see "startup speak" from gov agencies?

Post by Aloha » Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 3:48 PM UTC

banach wrote: post #111

robga wrote: post #87

The June 2021 assessment [0] of the service notes that "the team will never be able to fully recoup their cost through a recharge model so will need to rely on centrally provided funding. This poses an important risk to the longevity of the product, as it is *dependent on political buy-in and budget from the Treasury*". [0] https://www.gov.uk/service-standard-reports/gov-dot-uk-platf...

A pathetic example of the ideological myopia that plagues Europe these days. States have provided services to their inhabitants since prehistory, and the notion that this infrastructure does not need financing is as healthy as a corporation that thinks it does not need to invest to succeed. At best, this strategy of living off of investments made by previous generations is doomed to underperform compared to states th…

Post by Gordonjcp » Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 4:13 PM UTC

atwood22 wrote: post #39

maccard wrote: post #33

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> Namely, when people work less, less innovation happens, which means less productivity growth happens, which means less innovation happens, and so on. That's quite a stretch. Ask any engineer about having that a-ha moment in the shower, or when out for a walk. Downtime is incredibly important for mentally intense work. Work smarter, not harder and all that. Productivity isn't tied to time spent in office - my experi…

> That's quite a stretch. Ask any engineer about having that a-ha moment in the shower, or when out for a walk. Downtime is incredibly important for mentally intense work. I agree but I think you’ll find that working usually contributes economic value. Not working usually doesn’t. The key word being usually. if you’re in doubt, just try to record the economic value delivered by your downtime. How many hours are idled…

Post by Gordonjcp » Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 4:17 PM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #109

atwood22 wrote: post #25

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Don't feel bad. Europeans have a much better work-life balance. Plenty of parental leave. A culture that prioritizes life outside the office. Six weeks of guaranteed vacation that people actually take. Etc. Those things have a price. Namely, when people work less, less innovation happens, which means less productivity growth happens, which means less innovation happens, and so on. I lived in Germany for two years. I…

>Europeans have [...] Six weeks of guaranteed vacation that people actually take. That is false. EU mandates minimum 4 weeks of PTO across all members but varies wildly according to country, sector and company. In most EU countries I've seen the average tends to hover around 5 weeks while 6 weeks or more is usually for very generous employers trying to attract top applicants in employee friendly countries. I get you'…

Post by capableweb » Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 4:26 PM UTC

jeromenerf wrote: post #105

capableweb wrote: post #5

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Is there any Europe-based PaaS currently operating, that are noteworthy? Most companies seems to be US-based.

"Europe based": yes, we are french. "Currently operating": yes, steadily, for seven years now. "Noteworthy": yes, I really hope we are, at least, we have been quite newsworthy recently "Most companies seems to be US-based": well, we have US employees and we are running on top of US based companies infrastructure, amongst others. o/ -- platform.sh