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Microrobots can brush and floss teeth in a proof-of-concept study

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Post by throwaway4837 »

bmau5 wrote: post #60

This is very interesting and has a lot of potential, especially for people who struggle to brush their teeth, but I think there's another future where brushing and flossing largely become obsolete. If we could develop a more effective mouthwash tailored to restoring each persons oral microbiome we could likely reduce the need for brushing and flossing and instead replace it with a daily mouth rinse that clears out fo…

Wouldn't the mouthwash need abrasive particles as well? Part of why Listerine doesn't replace brushing and flossing is because it has a much smaller mechanical component in the washing process. The physical rubbing of bristles and wire through and around the teeth creates the physical abrasion that is necessary to remove large films of plaque.

I imagine without any sort of abrasive, the liquid would need to be dangerously strong to remove tougher plaque.

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Post by samstave »

So as an aside; Ciliac Disease is caused by the body falsely thinking [this was that] and attacking its own internals...

SO...

Lets assume that you add these and then they get ingested (which ALWAYS happens in brushing teeth) --> long term "micro-biome-biotics" affect on gut biome)

Gut biomes are the most important health aspect for nutrition we should be plugging AI into...

This seems like it will result in not-good outcomes.... Imagine programming "toothpaste" such that the bots that ARE ingested devour/destroy/attack/plant-payloads on cells in the system...

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Future Bio-Cyber-Nutrition attacks:

A powder that is applied to a food substance that survives heat, cooking ; results in the bio-breakdown or attack of the individual.

Level III: A recon biometrix that can be ingested and give the gut bio of a target.... in order to create a specific attack vector.

Levvel IV: an agent who can determine dietary habits

Level VI: Spore attributed to specific diets.

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Cyber warfare is not just computers ; its protein folding...

When we were "folding proteins" for health.... Health can be - OR + <-- When we use the term "for health" ... it is ofr hte '-' <-- We are designing proteins to kill. Not heal. UNLESS you're Thiel.

Re: Microrobots can brush and floss teeth in a proof-of-concept study

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Post by throwaway4837 »

coryrc wrote: post #80
Victerius wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like a dishwasher but for teeth?

Some people rarely brush their teeth and never get cavities. Some people brush thrice daily and floss and still get cavities and need root canals. The working theory is we could all be in the first group with the right bacteria in our mouth.

Those two groups are likely differentiated on diet. For starters, diet can overload your mouth with complex and simple sugars, but diet can also determine the bacterial makeup of your mouth.

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Post by abrichr »

macinjosh wrote: post #9
svantana wrote: post #3

I find it strange that there is so little innovation in the field of everyday tooth care. Particularly the inefficiency of brushing one tooth at a time. I like the idea of https://blizzbrush.com/ , has anyone tried it? It's a bit suspicious that the single-pack is "sold out", but the 5 and 10-packs are not.

If you are in the US, like me, you might not be aware of Novamin toothpastes. They are available in other countries. It is my understanding that it can enclose dentin tubules exposed by enamel loss. This article provides some background: https://medium.com/@ravenstine/the-curious-history-of-novami...

CPP-ACFP (a.k.a. Recaldent) is better than Novamin, at least according to one study:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6006878/

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Post by 13of40 »

throwaway4837 wrote: post #113
coryrc wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people rarely brush their teeth and never get cavities. Some people brush thrice daily and floss and still get cavities and need root canals. The working theory is we could all be in the first group with the right bacteria in our mouth.

Those two groups are likely differentiated on diet. For starters, diet can overload your mouth with complex and simple sugars, but diet can also determine the bacterial makeup of your mouth.

No idea where it eventually led, but I read about work done back in the 80s to vaccinate against the bacteria that cause tooth decay. That suggests that some people might have natural immunity to them.

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Post by Hellbanevil »

LeonM wrote: post #30
svantana wrote: post #3

I find it strange that there is so little innovation in the field of everyday tooth care. Particularly the inefficiency of brushing one tooth at a time. I like the idea of https://blizzbrush.com/ , has anyone tried it? It's a bit suspicious that the single-pack is "sold out", but the 5 and 10-packs are not.

There is quite some innovation, but consumers are slow to adopt IMO. Last year, my dentist warned me I have quite severe receded gums. This was due to me pushing my toothbrush too hard. So, after doing some research I bought an ultrasonic toothbrush. These have a static head (it does not oscillate/rotate) which emits ultrasonic waves to clean your teeth. Same principle of an ultrasonic parts cleaner. The head is stil…

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Post by comeondude »

bmau5 wrote: post #98
coryrc wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people rarely brush their teeth and never get cavities. Some people brush thrice daily and floss and still get cavities and need root canals. The working theory is we could all be in the first group with the right bacteria in our mouth.

That's it exactly. Some beneficial species play an active role in suppressing the pathogenic species (those that release acid or cause gum disease) and have other benefits including helping us break down dietary nitrate into nitric oxide, which is critical for heart/brain health. My company tests/researches the oral microbiome and we're starting to discover the signatures of what puts people in one group vs. the othe…

This is very cool.

What’s your take on xytiol gums? Think they’re effective in changing our oral microdiome for the better?

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Post by Forgeties79 »

abrichr wrote: post #110
Forgeties79 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t doubt that money is their highest priority, as that is the case for most people when it comes to their job. But the implication that they are sabotaging our teeth or giving bad advice in order to be able to bill us for bigger procedures down the line is a much bigger claim.

It happens. From https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/05/the-tro... : > Year after year, Lund had performed certain procedures at extraordinarily high rates. Whereas a typical dentist might perform root canals on previously crowned teeth in only 3 to 7 percent of cases, Lund was performing them in 90 percent of cases. As Zeidler later alleged in court documents, Lund had performed invasive, costly, and s…

Of course it happens. I didn’t say, “it never happens.” I’m saying most dentists don’t behave that way.

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Post by LeonM »

kwanbix wrote: post #62
LeonM wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is quite some innovation, but consumers are slow to adopt IMO. Last year, my dentist warned me I have quite severe receded gums. This was due to me pushing my toothbrush too hard. So, after doing some research I bought an ultrasonic toothbrush. These have a static head (it does not oscillate/rotate) which emits ultrasonic waves to clean your teeth. Same principle of an ultrasonic parts cleaner. The head is stil…

Where do you get them for 90? I only see them at 190 in Germany. https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/ProductCategory/3233.ht...

You can get it here for 99 euro in the Netherlands: https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/silk-n-toothwave-elektrische-tan...

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Post by skocznymroczny »

LeonM wrote: post #30
svantana wrote: post #3

I find it strange that there is so little innovation in the field of everyday tooth care. Particularly the inefficiency of brushing one tooth at a time. I like the idea of https://blizzbrush.com/ , has anyone tried it? It's a bit suspicious that the single-pack is "sold out", but the 5 and 10-packs are not.

There is quite some innovation, but consumers are slow to adopt IMO. Last year, my dentist warned me I have quite severe receded gums. This was due to me pushing my toothbrush too hard. So, after doing some research I bought an ultrasonic toothbrush. These have a static head (it does not oscillate/rotate) which emits ultrasonic waves to clean your teeth. Same principle of an ultrasonic parts cleaner. The head is stil…

Are these ultrasonic toothbrushes actually using ultrasonic waves? I have an expensive sonicare toothbrush and a cheap noname $10 "sonic" toothbrush from the supermarket and can't really tell the difference between both. Both feel like a standard toothbrush with a phone vibrating motor put inside.
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