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Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series

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Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series

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Even with the rebate, how can they hope to recoup the investment? Merch? DVD Sales? Increasing sign ups to Prime? I have a doubt the profits from that will help them earn money to cover up the remaining 300 million or so they have still invested. And the "internet" really reacted negatively to the trailer as well. (I personally didn't hate the trailer myself but after having watched the original trilogy and the first…

Keep in mind that Amazon needs to get only ~0.2M incremental Amazon Prime subscribers to recoup the investment. The lifetime value (LTV) of a Prime subscriber has been estimated at ~$2,300.[a] You can play around with the figure, but given that every LOTR fan is going to want to watch this series even if it sucks , I wouldn't be surprised is Amazon ends up getting far more than ~0.2M new Prime subscribers because of…

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Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series

#113
post #59

So much money for something that I can already tell will flop... I really don't understand why they put people who have no connection with the IP in charge of this. It's really quite sad to see such a beloved world getting an adaptation that is destroyed by poor writing and design by committee

World wide format demographics means we have a cookie cutter adaption that probably just plays the script as a checklist needed to be done instead of anything inspiring.

How about a movie on a fictional global shopping conglomerate with a selfish CEO who doesn’t want to pay fair wages.

Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series

#114
post #89

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A charitable interpretation of what you call modern dogma is that people acknowledge that we're not all the same (that's what diversity is about, I think), but that the differences aren't predicted by gender or race or culture or whatever. That is of course also not very compatible with LotR.

If they're not predicted by gender or race, then why do companies need 50% women? The very fact that that is a goal, means you do not believe these aren't predicted by race or gender, but that they are, and if you don't have 50% employees you are discriminating. Of course the people in favour also say what you just said, which just shows how completely conflicting their views are.

I guess either not everybody follows my charitable interpretation, or they try to counteract supposed systemic biases by introducing quotas.

Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series

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Never thought I’d live to see the day where people would unironically call equity dogma. But here we are. What a sad state of affairs.

This usage of equity is, what, five years old? Does something that new really call for an “I never thought I’d live to see the day”?

I think that OP is not objecting to the usage of "equity" but its association with "dogma".

Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series

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>Amazon cancels Lord of the Rings MMO video game

This stood out to me, let's just say the MMO came out as well. Then the entire thing looks like a long-term investment to reinvigorate the franchise.

I actually really liked the WB Game's RPGs

Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series

#117
post #75

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I never even bothered with Season 8.

And you'll be happier if you keep it that way :-) The only worse ending I know is that of How I Met Your Mother. Just skip the last two episodes there, seriously.

The last season of Game of Thrones is genuinely the worst possible ending to the show and genuinely takes the top spot for the most disappointing ending of all time. At least,HIMYM had its defenders but I've never seen a good thing spoken about the story in the final season.

Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series

#118

Media productions are daughters of their time. We currently have a situation where the elite in Hollywood are desperate to bring diversity and blackwashing into the stories. When a new LOTR series is shot in 50 years from now, this will no longer be an issue.

As a fantasy series, it seems the ethnicities of the actors are quite irrelevant. I can understand that it can be a bit odd in historical dramas, but male actors used to play the female roles in plays. It seems pretty secondary unless the plot is explicitly about race. And historical accuracy, even in historical dramas is usually tenuous at best anyway.

I’d suggest that when you say “blackwashing” people are going to take that as a signal that you have some pretty toxic politics.

Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series

#119
post #18

Obviously, I’ll wait and see once it comes out. But it seems odd to spend so much and not have a single established creator that has put out great content. And not to involve Jackson seems off because even having him in a consulting role would be a good sign. Looking at the imdb page this seems like a corporate driven project rather than a creator driven project with lots of different directors that haven’t don’t any…

Why do known actors matter? When I see Chris Pratt in a movie I just think oh it's Andy from parks and rec. I see Forrest Gump but in a different movie or Jim Halbert in a horror movie. Known actors make it hard to be immersed.

Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series

#120

For all that money wasted on politically correct elves and dwarven maidens, they could have filmed 10 seasons of "The Expanse", "Firefly", or some other new show.

Being black is now called "politically correct"? Why not just say black?
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