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“The joy of sharing has been driven from me“

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Re: “The joy of sharing has been driven from me“

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Gamers are the most entitled consumer group I've ever seen. It's astounding. Someone wants to create something, and there's just so much hate and negativity on something that people didn't even pay for. I've seen it on HN also. Someone creates a thing, and then people pour out of the woodwork to lump horrible criticism. No one is asking for blind praise for what they create, but surely there's a middle ground between…

Counterpoint: I used to feel the same way about the entitlement. Then I stopped and thought about how many "hours worked" the average game costs for a person on minimum wage. While the minimum wage has risen dramatically in my area, to at least $12/hr, with games costing upwards of $80 now, that's still almost 2 full days, after taxes. It's easy to forget when people on this board are probably all making at least low…

Compelling argument. Still, let me attempt a counter-counterpoint: $80 games tend to give 40+ hours of play, or $2/hour and the chance to play again. A movie in the theater is upwards of $20 and yields maybe 2 hours of entertainment, or $10/hour, and no ownership.

Plus in both cases you can wait a while for reviews to come in.

Re: “The joy of sharing has been driven from me“

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post #51
post #14

Gamers are the most entitled consumer group I've ever seen. It's astounding. Someone wants to create something, and there's just so much hate and negativity on something that people didn't even pay for. I've seen it on HN also. Someone creates a thing, and then people pour out of the woodwork to lump horrible criticism. No one is asking for blind praise for what they create, but surely there's a middle ground between…

Because unmoderated internet comment sections on non-gaming topics are such wholesome and positive places?

At least someone here gets it. Except the emphasis on moderation. YouTube comments are triple-moderated (by algorithms, by channel owners and by Alphabet contractors) and still are a cesspool. Think about that.

Re: “The joy of sharing has been driven from me“

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A lot of creatives have a hard time understanding the product side of art. Games are far more products like movies than they are "art". There have been a bunch of recent examples lately that showcases the minds of masses. Spiderman No Way Home did supremely well by giving the masses what they wanted, and not straying too far from the marvel formula. Sonic the Hedgehog Movie had a awful original art direction. The fan…

> people should be allowed to voice their dislike for a product and its direction.

Why? By "allowed to voice their disklike", I assume you mean outside of the privacy of their own home.

Re: “The joy of sharing has been driven from me“

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People don't like the art style. There's even precedent for this in gaming, remember what happened to Mass Effect: Andromeda? Or in broader media, there was a redesign of Sonic the Hedgehog for the movie.

Monkey Island is a very old game with lots of fans which was previously renowned for highly detailed art. People don't enjoy the corporate memphis skewed proportions of this new style, simple as.

Personal attacks are always wrong.

Re: “The joy of sharing has been driven from me“

#115
post #14

Gamers are the most entitled consumer group I've ever seen. It's astounding. Someone wants to create something, and there's just so much hate and negativity on something that people didn't even pay for. I've seen it on HN also. Someone creates a thing, and then people pour out of the woodwork to lump horrible criticism. No one is asking for blind praise for what they create, but surely there's a middle ground between…

The website is literally called 'grumpy gamer' so I'm not sure what the expectation was here

Re: “The joy of sharing has been driven from me“

#116
post #8

I don't understand the outrage at this art style. Granted, I've never played any of the Monkey Island games, and have no emotional attachment to the content. To me, the art style seems very similar to a Cartoon Network cartoon, and that may have broad appeal to kids today. Like I kind of understand why people are upset: this thing you loved 32 years ago is being vandalized in your eyes. However, you're really old now…

Its ok if you are into vagina slits or pink penis noses on all characters.

Re: “The joy of sharing has been driven from me“

#117
post #8

I don't understand the outrage at this art style. Granted, I've never played any of the Monkey Island games, and have no emotional attachment to the content. To me, the art style seems very similar to a Cartoon Network cartoon, and that may have broad appeal to kids today. Like I kind of understand why people are upset: this thing you loved 32 years ago is being vandalized in your eyes. However, you're really old now…

I'm not sure if it's even an exclusively nostalgia thing. Over the past few years I've seen a lot of complaining around art style changes. Notably the Civ V -> Civ VI art style change pissed a lot of people off. Personally I loved the game, but a lot of series veterans didn't even bother to try it.

People old enough to have played old Civs but whose brain hasn't developed sufficiently to have switched to Europa Universalis 4 deserve to be pissed.

Re: “The joy of sharing has been driven from me“

#120
post #14

Gamers are the most entitled consumer group I've ever seen. It's astounding. Someone wants to create something, and there's just so much hate and negativity on something that people didn't even pay for. I've seen it on HN also. Someone creates a thing, and then people pour out of the woodwork to lump horrible criticism. No one is asking for blind praise for what they create, but surely there's a middle ground between…

Hackernews comments are basically a concrete instance of "the dogs bark but the caravan moves on".
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