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Post by ricardobeat »

Closi wrote: post #29
benreesman wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The quantum superposition thing is just a cheeky metaphor for a sketchy-sounding accounting practice, I wouldn’t read too much into the wave-function collapse analogy.

It's a metaphor which makes it sound more complex than it is. All they are describing is that they have agreed to different royalty rates for different types of sale. I have zero doubt that the contracts will have very clear definitions of what counts as a 'sale' and what counts as 'licensing', but this article just pretends that it is highly ambiguous in order to make a strange analogy to quantum mechanics.

You're trying to prove your point, but you haven't really understood what it is about. The transaction is treated differently from an accounting perspective, as a license and a sale at the same time (this is what the wave collapse joke is about), with the effect both of ripping off the artists and limiting buyer rights.

They get the rights management from licensing on the user side (no "giving away old albums to a friend" possible), while giving artists the lower cut as if it was a physical album sale with high distribution costs. It has nothing to do with digital vs physical sales, you could play the same trick with a CD sale.

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Post by bitexploder »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #92
sailfast wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such as? Not trying to be pedantic, just looking for a more specific example. Are you talking about political appointees or public servants? If so, where? What agencies?

Here is a right-coded example of a hypothetical agency behavior with many claimed historical occurrences: Suppose you are the EPA and you'd like to implement some environmental rule that might or might not be strictly within your legal powers. You work out a deal with a friendly organization and they sue you for improper stewardship of the environment (with details, obviously, according to the rule you want to implem…

Rocky flats was one of the only times one agency raided another. Wild stuff.

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Post by ajvs »

feet wrote: post #94
sailfast wrote: post #76

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Think tanks are not the government. They are private institutions. Typically when one uses the term "deep state" you mean someone working in the government that has their own agenda and/or are acting on a specific conspiracy / cabal agenda counter to the direction of, say, the administration providing the guidance and direction. This is why the person asked about employees vs. lobbyists.

Yea, its the normal government and the deep state is the fact that its actually controlled by corporations and lobbyists. The corporations and lobbyists and think tanks are the deep state. They're the ones really in control, spreading propaganda and getting Americans to vote against their personal interests. Politicians are the biggest cucks for capitalism because they all get rich in office by fearing the corporate…

Whilst I agree that external moneyed interests control the US government to a large degree via the aforementioned mechanisms, this is not what people refer to when they say Deep State.

Deep State refers to government employees who hold a lot of power e.g. heads of alphabet agencies, their close underlings, etc and wield it in such a way that there's little recourse for the average American.

Both these moneyed interests AND the Deep State exert an influence that citizens should seek to regulate.

Re: Schroedinger's streaming service just died

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Post by feet »

ajvs wrote: post #113
feet wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, its the normal government and the deep state is the fact that its actually controlled by corporations and lobbyists. The corporations and lobbyists and think tanks are the deep state. They're the ones really in control, spreading propaganda and getting Americans to vote against their personal interests. Politicians are the biggest cucks for capitalism because they all get rich in office by fearing the corporate…

Whilst I agree that external moneyed interests control the US government to a large degree via the aforementioned mechanisms, this is not what people refer to when they say Deep State. Deep State refers to government employees who hold a lot of power e.g. heads of alphabet agencies, their close underlings, etc and wield it in such a way that there's little recourse for the average American. Both these moneyed interes…

What I'm saying is that those people in government who could be considered "deep state" are the ones appointed due to the money in politics. I agree that there is unaccountability but it all comes down to money and corporate power

The ones with the money and corporate power are pulling the strings of those who they install

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Post by yellowapple »

AlexandrB wrote: post #101
yellowapple wrote: post #64

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> Which will then contain a link to the file Why? You already have a copy on your local machine ("local machine" being anywhere you'd want to play that file). What's more important is the hash; if you really care about remote storage, IPFS kills both those birds with one stone. > Still, you'll now pay >50$ for each file, 98% of which are transaction fees There are other NFT-capable blockchains besides Ethereum, you k…

As someone who loves organizing my music, a file hash would be a shitty solution. I want to be able to edit tags and transcode the song (e.g. for iTunes compatibility) without losing ownership.

As long as you retain the original (which you probably should anyway, especially if you're converting to a lossy format or downloaded it that way in the first place) and can redo the conversion on demand, I don't expect that to be much of an issue.

A Shazam-esque audio fingerprinting approach could work here, too (though obviously IPFS won't give you that for free like it would a file hash). Might be troublesome for remixes, though.

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Post by sailfast »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #92
sailfast wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such as? Not trying to be pedantic, just looking for a more specific example. Are you talking about political appointees or public servants? If so, where? What agencies?

Here is a right-coded example of a hypothetical agency behavior with many claimed historical occurrences: Suppose you are the EPA and you'd like to implement some environmental rule that might or might not be strictly within your legal powers. You work out a deal with a friendly organization and they sue you for improper stewardship of the environment (with details, obviously, according to the rule you want to implem…

Fascinating. Thanks. It's not surprising to see some of these types of things getting thrown out in the end when challenged by someone on the other side of the agreement.

Re: Schroedinger's streaming service just died

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Post by sailfast »

thfuran wrote: post #100
sailfast wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a nice fantasy, but it's simply not the case in my experience. The details are deferred because you want to be able to adapt some things faster than you can change a law and you want it done with a comment period by subject matter experts, rather than by legislators. In general, however, those agencies are slow moving (requires comment period, must decide given bounds, funding limited, etc) and pretty narrowly h…

>it's simply not the case in my experience And how much US Congressional experience do you have?

US Congress is explicitly elected. OP mentions UNelected bureaucrats. I have many years of experience as an unelected bureaucrat at the federal level.
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