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Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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im speculating that in a wild twist of events, MS announces the revival of Netscape Navigator, just to keep all the web developers on their toes and make sure they get enough practice working with cross browser compatability

No need. Safari fills that role for us now

Wouldn't that be Chrome?

Internet Explorer had dominant market share, non-standardized features, and powerful corporate backing.

Chrome has dominant market share, non-standardized features, and powerful corporate backing.

Safari doesn't have the newest standards always, but mostly sticks to the standards from what I know. The major difference seems to be a lot of devs liking Chrome.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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post #84

IE may have been problematic from a tech point of view, but I'll eulogize that IE was important in advancing the web. The OS-integrated browser meant that in 1995, users had a full Internet stack readily available on their home PCs -- the widespread launch of Web 1.0. Later, IE was the pioneer of XMLHttpRequest, the beginning of Web 2.0. For these, we can say thanks, Microsoft! (for everything else, see other comment…

People often forget that in the IE4 days, IE was leagues beyond Netscape. It had far better CSS and JS support, and you could do things that wouldn't be possible in Netscape for years.

That said, it all came to an end after Microsoft "won" and disbanded the IE dev team, resulting in that era of stagnation we all remember.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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post #78
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All versions of Windows Server are (for now) unaffected, i.e., Internet Explorer 11 continues to run [1]. There is also "Internet Explorer Mode" in Edge, which uses iexplore.exe under the hood. Additionally, if somebody were _really_ desperate to launch iexplore.exe itself, then there are unsupported means to do so. For example, via manually modifying the registry key "NotifyDisableIEOptions" under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE…

If one is desperate, there is also the option of the classic Webview control in Visual Studio (or even the old VB6 version) which with little bit of UI added around it, can substitute for the real IE for certain enterprise legacy webapps. A bit more effort, can also lock the control to only browse to the intended web service, and launch the default browser for any external links. There's kind of a market for this typ…

these WebView on VB6 isn't the IE6 engine ?

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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I argue that moving it “out of support” doesn't mean anything for what browsers you have to support. Users and businesses still using IE11 aren't exactly those that are on the top of their IT policy game, so I doubt they will be jumping when the browser is “no longer supported by Microsoft.”

Official deprecation like this helps companies say “sorry, we don’t support IE11 anymore either, you’ll have to upgrade.” Not all companies will do this, but plenty will.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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I started doing web development back in Netscape - adding graphics extensions. I think it was 1995.

But I really dug into SPA/AJAX web apps in 2000 - building enterprise stuff. They were all "IE6 apps". IE6 was basically my X-windows. No other browsers were supported, and there as no pushback from customers back then. Only one of those apps made the transition to IE11.

Last year I explained to my current client that our big enterprise reporting app had to move off IE11. And I was really surprised how much pushback on got on that.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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First time I ever wanted to embed an image into a HN comment. This image is so fitting! https://i.imgur.com/MgGvQHH.png

I was not sure what that would be, but it got a solid chuckle out of me, thanks for lifting my mood!

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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If you have some time between two cocktails while celebrating, do your visitors a favour and add this meta tag to your : https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/ie_standards/ms-i... This will make IE very insisting to upgrade to Edge if possible.

That's not what that is. "Edge" there doesn't mean Edge the browser, it means "latest"; it predates the Edge browser by many years. It has nothing to do with the Edge upgrade. It switches IE into the latest document mode that it supports. For IE11, it just puts it into IE11 mode.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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post #49

I’ve still been using IE11 up to now by default (for the websites it still renders adequately, with Firefox as a fallback — there’s a “Open current page in Firefox” add-in), for the following reasons: - crisper and higher-contrast font rendering on low-DPI monitors - Ctrl+N/Ctrl+K clone the current tab into a new window/tab including its history, letting you “fork” the tab and effectively navigate a history tree. Edi…

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