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Re: Meta sued for social media addiction caused by its algorithm

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No, illegal as in “vaping is not allowed at all in Australia.”

Thanks, didn't realise that'd been made illegal as well. eg: https://www.tga.gov.au/blogs/tga-topics/nicotine-vaping-laws... Good. :)

Vaping is still legal. It's just illegal to import nicotine based vapes.

Re: Meta sued for social media addiction caused by its algorithm

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I don’t understand what you’re saying. What does the line actually imply? And what do people think it implies? (Part of my confusion is that I don’t think the stats imply anything at all.)

To reiterate: 1. The article claims that Facebook's own internal research found that Instagram exacerbates mental health issues in teen girls. No surrounding context given. It implies that it's straight up harmful. 2. The actual research said that 31% of teen girls felt that Instagram made body image issues worse. 45.5% said Instagram had no impact and 22% said Instagram made it better. For the other 11 out of 12 men…

I see. Thanks.

Re: Meta sued for social media addiction caused by its algorithm

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If I call you a child-eating asshole, and every story is either about how much of a goat-fucking moron you are, or gruesome stories with graphic murders, will you want to stay on Hacker News?

Direct insults aren't what FB is promoting. FB promotes biased if not outright fake coverage of real-world events that stir up outrage and controversy and encourage people to "engage" by arguing in the comments or seeking more of such content.

But the thing is: outrage and controversy are seen by your friends who are insulted by it.

Re: Meta sued for social media addiction caused by its algorithm

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If I call you a child-eating asshole, and every story is either about how much of a goat-fucking moron you are, or gruesome stories with graphic murders, will you want to stay on Hacker News?

First, that's not a citation. Where's the data that shows controversy reduces engagement? Second, that's not at all what happens on Facebook though. On Facebook every other story is about how people outside of your tribe are child-eating assholes. This very discussion is a counterfactual to your claim. Someone posts a topic that is somewhat controversial, and we're all arguing about it in the comments. That's engagem…

Do you think that I want to contribute after I’ve been called names and downvoted for trying to provide an informed experience?

Yes, some people will pile up for a minute. As a user that’s what you see, but controversies are not gratuituous: if you are racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, or anything heated, your friends, colleagues, family members who are insulted will see that and disengage.

I’ve had to look at how much that represent, and it’s a much stronger effect than the pile-up that you noticed.

Re: Meta sued for social media addiction caused by its algorithm

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If I call you a child-eating asshole, and every story is either about how much of a goat-fucking moron you are, or gruesome stories with graphic murders, will you want to stay on Hacker News?

>>citation needed >strawman provided Dictionary needed?

This was not a strawman: nothing is when you talk about Facebook. There’s anything on that website: even the one in a billion thing happen several times a day.

Re: Meta sued for social media addiction caused by its algorithm

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Facebook algorithm hasn’t been optimised to maximise time spent on the site since 2014, and controversial topics have a well documented negative effect on both attention and engagement.

Their own leaked internal docs say that angry, love, sad, and wow reactions had 5x more weight than traditional likes. It should be easy to infer that this will promote more controversial posts than uncontroversial ones. It seems like their attention & engagement tweaks are spent on Instagram. One frustrating recent change was the introduction of a non-algorithmic feed, but it's not on by default, and it hides storie…

> angry, love, sad, and wow

Those are not reactions to controversial posts. Those are stong reactions to posts that you want to see and you generally agree with. 'lol' has been used either as it was meant (positive reaction to a joke) or negatively (mocking a sincere post).

Re: Meta sued for social media addiction caused by its algorithm

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Facebook algorithm hasn’t been optimised to maximise time spent on the site since 2014, and controversial topics have a well documented negative effect on both attention and engagement.

How does a user verify that anything Facebook claims to do behind the scenes is true?

You can ask people who left. I wouldn't leak documents because that cause a lot of collateral damage.

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Happy to explain what really happened with Facebook, but I typically don’t get a lot of positive feedback when I do.

Please do; don't hold back. Tell us what went down. Thanks - hope you're doing alright

Thank you for your support. My response got downvoted to oblivion, so I deleted it. One day, people will be less angry and care more about what happened.

Re: Meta sued for social media addiction caused by its algorithm

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Happy to explain what really happened with Facebook, but I typically don’t get a lot of positive feedback when I do.

Yes, please do. It will be constructive whether people agree with it or not.

Thank you for your support. My response got downvoted to oblivion, so I deleted it. One day, people will be less angry and care more about what happened.
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