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Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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Post by macinjosh »

drivebycomment wrote: post #107
macinjosh wrote: post #102

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Just wait until the bean counters force everyone to only use electricity for energy. Grids will be overloaded and will go out consistently. They will also just turn off your electricity if you do something they don’t like.

By bean counters you mean environmentalist / climate activists convincing politicians ? A common meaning of bean counters - who only cares about money - would never do that. And if you think general populace in the first world countries will suffer through consistent blackout, I think you are utterly and completely mistaken.

And I think you are wrong too. So what? I’m in my thirties and the climate change was supposed to end the world about 4 different times and now and nothing has happened.

It’s about power and control, period.

Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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Post by macinjosh »

drivebycomment wrote: post #107
macinjosh wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just wait until the bean counters force everyone to only use electricity for energy. Grids will be overloaded and will go out consistently. They will also just turn off your electricity if you do something they don’t like.

By bean counters you mean environmentalist / climate activists convincing politicians ? A common meaning of bean counters - who only cares about money - would never do that. And if you think general populace in the first world countries will suffer through consistent blackout, I think you are utterly and completely mistaken.

Do you read anything, like, at all? Finance plays a _huge_ role in the climate change machinery. Carbon credits, ESG, regulations and more. Thems the bean counters.

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Post by Gigachad »

alar44 wrote: post #100
kstenerud wrote: post #42

Gas stoves are an anachronism anyway; good riddance to them. There has been no better time for electric-only cooking. Air fryers are FAR more energy efficient than ovens, and also cook faster. Sous-vide cookers are cheap and can cook certain dishes to perfection every time. Instant pot style pressure cookers cover most of the rest. And everyone already knows the convenience of microwave ovens. Unless you're cooking a…

I don't think you'll find a single cook who would prefer electric. Literally no one.

The cooks and gas stoves feels a lot like the programmer / gamer with mechanical keyboards debate. There is really _no_ advantage to mechanical keyboards but almost everyone picks them and insists membrane keyboards are unusable.

It doesn't matter what the facts are, its just a personal preference thing at that point.

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Post by samarthr1 »

snapplebobapple wrote: post #94
deepdmistry wrote: post #58

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Although i agree that gas cooktops have several advantages in cooking non westernized meals, rotis can definitely be made on induction. Been making them since many years now.

got a recipe/walkthrough? I love me some roti, am tired of paying for the stuff made in the big oven/cooker things though. I have an induction cooktop already.

Make a soft dough with flour (ideally whole wheat), water, salt. Kneed thoroughly. List of sit for about 1/2 hour, in a bowl, covered with a cloth. Make smallish balls of of the dough. Dust a flat, hard surface with left over flour, roll into a thin disk of even thickness. The size is less important than the evenness in thickness.

Heat a pan, until a small amount of ghee/butter melts when placed on it. Place the roti on the pan, and cook each side. You will know that it is done when the roti slightly puffs up.

True skill is in making rotis which stay soft in a hotbox.

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Post by vehemenz »

antisthenes wrote: post #109
vehemenz wrote: post #75

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Are you suggesting people put their electric kettles on the stove? Or that people place their hot kettles on the counter?

When it's not on the gas stove, it has to go somewhere.

And how does that relate to counter space?

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Post by fomine3 »

JshWright wrote: post #46
7speter wrote: post #19

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This assumes you (everyone) live(s) in a building whose circuit breaker won’t trip when you plug in said kettle. And it can cost a pretty penny to get a building up to this standard.

If an off the shelf kettle is popping a circuit breaker in your house (absent some other load on the circuit), there’s a reasonable chance that’s a fire waiting to happen in a faulty wiring connection somewhere.

Many cheap older apartment in Japan has poor 30A/100V power contract. Even the equipment is fine, 12A electric kettle may cause circuit braker down if they use other electronics.

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Post by Spivak »

ChoGGi wrote: post #83
Spivak wrote: post #21

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In new construction people are installing those microwave vents that literally do nothing except blow the air out the top of the microwave. It’s not totally worthless but it’s next to worthless.

Microwaves can vent if you hook up its vent to a duct, cheap construction doesn't do that if they can get away with it.

Yes and no, while I suppose you could technically attach a vent to the top half of the microwave and route it outside the upper vents are absolutely not designed for that and you would have the most awkward ugly installation that blocks your upper cabinet doors. So yes the reason for these units is 100% penny pinching and cheap construction but better construction alone won’t fix the problems with these microwaves.

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Post by alar44 »

Gigachad wrote: post #113
alar44 wrote: post #100

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I don't think you'll find a single cook who would prefer electric. Literally no one.

The cooks and gas stoves feels a lot like the programmer / gamer with mechanical keyboards debate. There is really _no_ advantage to mechanical keyboards but almost everyone picks them and insists membrane keyboards are unusable. It doesn't matter what the facts are, its just a personal preference thing at that point.

There's a massive advantage to steady heat though. Electric turns on and off and induction is a little weird because the pan is the heating element, easy to get too hot.

Seriously, find me a chef who prefers electric and I'll eat my shoe.

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Post by kstenerud »

Gigachad wrote: post #113
alar44 wrote: post #100

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I don't think you'll find a single cook who would prefer electric. Literally no one.

The cooks and gas stoves feels a lot like the programmer / gamer with mechanical keyboards debate. There is really _no_ advantage to mechanical keyboards but almost everyone picks them and insists membrane keyboards are unusable. It doesn't matter what the facts are, its just a personal preference thing at that point.

That's pretty much it. There are properties that make certain technologies slightly better than others for specific things, but at the end of the day it's mostly people wanting confirmation of their preferences.

People love to show off their kitchens for some weird reason (regardless of how much of it they actually need or use), so of course it turns into an audiophile-style argument (cast iron seasoning comes to mind, or those ostentatious "wall of oven-like devices" that some MPs are getting called elitist over). Conspicuous consumption makes people do funny things.

Once the gas is finally gone, you'll see people claiming they knew that electric was better all along. And I suppose I'll be saying that "I liked electric before it was cool, man!"

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Post by rascul »

stefan_ wrote: post #17
rascul wrote: post #16

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I see many of them that simply vent into the attic. This requires a properly vented attic, and has the downside of introducing moisture into the attic, which can lead to damage. That said, mobile homes pretty much always vent outside in my experience.

A lot of them do not vent at all. They just draw it up through a coarse filter and out the top again.

Yes, I see those too. I work on houses for a living though and those are not too common, at least around here. I typically might see those in the older houses, or in half assed renovations.
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