Earlier quoted context omitted.
And others that thought they did, only to find that they were the arms and legs of an even more brutal and incomprehensible regime.
Really? Which ones?
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Who owns Parliament?
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Re: Who owns Parliament?
#112We’re a constitutional monarchy AND a democracy. The monarch is the disabled root account of the nation. The government is the sudoers
Sounds like the system would be simpler if we removed root and gave capabilities to the sudoers instead. Edit: why does the disabled root account allocate so much RAM?
Been there, done that already. The British have tried that before.
We called it the Interregnum[1]. It turned out nobody liked a system without a superuser so the fix was a restoration plus tweaks to limit powers.
You’ll note this all happening well before others decided to repeat the experiment.
The system has been ticking along at some definition of “fine”[2] ever since.
1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Interregnum
2. Personally I’m less concerned about who the ceremonial head of state is than I am about having a police force that refuses to investigate the Prime Minister for breaking the law[3].
Whilst at the same time retrospectively investigating women for breaking the very same law by attending a protest about the murder of a woman by a serving officer of that very same police force.
Now that is fucked up.
3. See private ABBA party.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd argue that while the current generation of nobles may in fact have done nothing much to earn them, they do have ancestors that fought bitterly, and in some cases quite sleazily, to earn and keep their privilege. the idea that "all men are equal" is not really true in Europe. And it's only supposedly true in America
> the idea that "all men are equal" is not really true in Europe. It's not really true in reality . Some folks are stronger, some faster, some more intelligent, some have more social connections, some are more charismatic. Even if we lived in a Harrison Bergeron dystopia there would be some inequality somewhere. I kind of admire an idealised British system which recognises inequality and attempts to channel it to goo…
Some people are also more wicked, less empathetic, more manipulative, and more opportunistic.
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#114> The Crown Estate Commissioners have done this under the terms of the Land Registration Act 2002, which allows the Crown to register an interest in otherwise unregistered land. This is wild to me. What do you mean "unregistered land" ? How the hell can you have been a nation for centuries and still have land that no-one owns? How can you be uncertain about who owns a piece of land? How can you have disputes? Every s…
In general, that's called the Torrens titles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrens_title) after the MP of South Australia (which is now an Australian state) which implemented it. It's actually not that common, to highlight this in the US only Guam (which was then part of the Captaincy General of the Philippines) is the only US territory or state fully implementing Torrens titles, with some states partially implementing it and some (like the area in and around Chicago and the state of California) repealing it.
Edit: I need to clarify that some states/countries have non-Torrens land registries (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_registration) or deeds registries (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deeds_registration) but they only record what allegedly happened and ownership can be challenged in court, so these registries are not a guarantee of ownership (unlike in Torrens titles where the titles are indefeasible and the only possible lawsuits are about the circumstances of the transfer like if the original owner was defrauded).
Re: Who owns Parliament?
#115> The Crown Estate Commissioners have done this under the terms of the Land Registration Act 2002, which allows the Crown to register an interest in otherwise unregistered land. This is wild to me. What do you mean "unregistered land" ? How the hell can you have been a nation for centuries and still have land that no-one owns? How can you be uncertain about who owns a piece of land? How can you have disputes? Every s…
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
You live in the US, but refer to "their" society as if you're not a part of it. So if "their" society is in ruins, why do you choose to continue living there? Surely you can head off to any number of countries that would suit you much better, and allow you to be a part of their society.
Ah, the old "if you don't like it, leave" advice. Well, in life, you might come across some situations where running away isn't really an option. I've got an (American) wife who likes it here, and a kid whose schooling I don't want to interrupt. Yes. If it were just me, I'd leave. I've made enough millions that I could live quite happily back in my home country, but, you know... Life. Not just your own opinion counts…
So then maybe "society is in ruins because people are allowed to own things I don't think they should be allowed to own" is a bit hyperbolic, yes?
Re: Who owns Parliament?
#117The article never actually answers the question, because the monarch doesn't actually own the crown estate. It's an entirely different thing to the lands owned privately by the queen.
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#118> The Crown Estate Commissioners have done this under the terms of the Land Registration Act 2002, which allows the Crown to register an interest in otherwise unregistered land. This is wild to me. What do you mean "unregistered land" ? How the hell can you have been a nation for centuries and still have land that no-one owns? How can you be uncertain about who owns a piece of land? How can you have disputes? Every s…
Sweden is mapped that way because at some point they decided to do so, and any "unregistered land" became something - likely property of the Swedish government.
The UK has a much more ... involved understanding of land, and since it only has to be registered when sold (IIRC) there are large plats of land where the owner is not registered (even though it may be known).
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
The queen was exercising secret veto power, I don't think root was disabled. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr...
I think this is the link you meant, because when I click yours I just get a favicon: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vette...
>The documents also show that on other occasions the monarch’s advisers demanded exclusions from proposed laws relating to road safety and land policy that appeared to affect her estates, and pressed for government policy on historic sites to be altered.
I like to read this as the Queen demanding that such common things like "speed limits" and "drive on the correct side of the road" shall not apply to Her Majesty.
Re: Who owns Parliament?
#120We’re a constitutional monarchy AND a democracy. The monarch is the disabled root account of the nation. The government is the sudoers
Sounds like the system would be simpler if we removed root and gave capabilities to the sudoers instead. Edit: why does the disabled root account allocate so much RAM?
Because investing both sovereignty and power in a single institution inexorably leads to tyranny. Examples abound.