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Plastic-eating enzyme could eliminate billions of tons of landfill waste

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Re: Plastic-eating enzyme could eliminate billions of tons of landfill waste

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Nuclear fuel must first be mined, correct? That's not renewable and could offset the benefits somewhat. That said I imagine it may be better as a base load than dirty coal.

We’re not running out of fissionable material any time soon

What are the limiting inputs? Because I imagine there is a lot to do to go from the ground to the reactor and back again?

Re: Plastic-eating enzyme could eliminate billions of tons of landfill waste

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Landfills are not a miracle technology. They exist already and are technologically sound. It’d be way more of a miracle if we somehow managed to greatly reduce waste.

People love to "what if" landfills. Best to not bother arguing with them. We have tons of problems with emissions, plastics pollution, industrial dumping. However landfills ain't one of them, but people won't give up. I've learned to not bother discussing anything with them if they don't know a few basics of how modern landfills are run (at least in western nations).

As others have mentioned they are a major source of methane emission, though this can be addressed (do a better job separating out food waste and compost it).

Re: Plastic-eating enzyme could eliminate billions of tons of landfill waste

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Sure. That's almost all due to food waste, though. FWIW. https://www.epa.gov/sustainable-management-food/sustainable-...

Yes, for that reason Santa Clara County (Silicon Valley) is pushing hard to divert food waste out of the garbage and get it composted instead: it's supposed to go in with yard waste, not the regular trash. Not sure how successful this is as it counts on people putting things in the correct bin.

Here in the UK you can actually be fined for putting food waste in the regular bin (although that depends on where you live and enforcement is spotty).

Re: Plastic-eating enzyme could eliminate billions of tons of landfill waste

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post #110

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Sure. That's almost all due to food waste, though. FWIW. https://www.epa.gov/sustainable-management-food/sustainable-...

Yes, for that reason Santa Clara County (Silicon Valley) is pushing hard to divert food waste out of the garbage and get it composted instead: it's supposed to go in with yard waste, not the regular trash. Not sure how successful this is as it counts on people putting things in the correct bin.

There is a program like that in some suburbs of Sydney. We get little green bags for compostable waste. The up take has been ok from what I’ve seen but these are affluent suburbs.

Re: Plastic-eating enzyme could eliminate billions of tons of landfill waste

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I've been hearing this for 20 years. I assume nothing will happen while this "news" will be used by fossil fuel companies to virtue signal "technological progress" in the plastic problem.

yep.. this and regrowing tooth.

Re: Plastic-eating enzyme could eliminate billions of tons of landfill waste

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post #110

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Sure. That's almost all due to food waste, though. FWIW. https://www.epa.gov/sustainable-management-food/sustainable-...

Yes, for that reason Santa Clara County (Silicon Valley) is pushing hard to divert food waste out of the garbage and get it composted instead: it's supposed to go in with yard waste, not the regular trash. Not sure how successful this is as it counts on people putting things in the correct bin.

We are now able to do this here in suburban Los Angeles. You can now put your food waste in the bin meant for green waste (lawn clippings)

Re: Plastic-eating enzyme could eliminate billions of tons of landfill waste

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post #110

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Sure. That's almost all due to food waste, though. FWIW. https://www.epa.gov/sustainable-management-food/sustainable-...

Yes, for that reason Santa Clara County (Silicon Valley) is pushing hard to divert food waste out of the garbage and get it composted instead: it's supposed to go in with yard waste, not the regular trash. Not sure how successful this is as it counts on people putting things in the correct bin.

As a county resident, I also started doing this recently, and I am amazed how much organic waste we were throwing away previously. My regular trash can takes much longer to fill, and I am constantly taking out the little kitchen bin (that was provided by the waste company).

Re: Plastic-eating enzyme could eliminate billions of tons of landfill waste

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Yeah, landfills are not major environmental problems, AFAIK, but they offend the neat freak within all of us. And, as you say, they're pretty good carbon deposits, which is supposed to be The Most Important Thing.

Or those of us who don't like microplatics in our fish, water, and bodies

If you don't like microplastics, then you should be pro landfill.

A very large fraction of those are from plastic waste in Asian countries that gets dumped into waterways instead of being landfilled.

Re: Plastic-eating enzyme could eliminate billions of tons of landfill waste

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> Yeah, landfills are not major environmental problems ... yet?

Is there enough raw material on earth for landfills to become major environmental problems? (genuinely curious)

Depends what you mean by "major environmental problem". Landfills aren't going to singlehandedly cause anthropogenic climate change, but they contribute significantly to it, and a poorly sealed landfill leaching its contents into the local water table can cause some pretty drastic problems with the local environment

Re: Plastic-eating enzyme could eliminate billions of tons of landfill waste

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> They're dirtier than natural gas power plants, however That is not true. > and the pollution that they do create can be particularly nasty That is also not true. Plastic is made of the exact same atoms as natural gas, plus oxygen. Plastic burns very very clean, with no waste except for water and CO2. PVC has chlorine, but is rare in trash, and the small amount of chlorine is easily filtered out of the exhaust. > We…

Plastic that goes into the trash is not pure plastic, it is trash and it has a lot of other junk in it. i.e. heavy metals and other stuff. That's one of the biggest reasons we have trouble recycling it. Are there even any WTE plants that burn only plastic?

It's very easy to separate metals from plastic. The paper mixed in can just stay, as can most other waste. That's one of the nice things about burning it - almost all trash will burn, except for metal and glass. Metal is easily removed before, and glass can be removed from the ash.

> Are there even any WTE plants that burn only plastic?

Tons of them. There are more of those than classic recycling. They just stay under the radar so people don't get upset (since like many people in this thread, they think it's dirty when it is not).

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