I don't agree with government regulation of what should or should not be in a site's code of conduct. Requiring codes of conduct to be enforced equally on all users, however, merits some thought.
Jack Dorsey says he agrees with reversing Trump's Twitter ban
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Re: Jack Dorsey says he agrees with reversing Trump's Twitter ban
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Your tone is not much different from his from my perspective (citizen of another country and I don't care about US elections).
What happens in the US elections, is more likely to have a bigger impact in your own country than your own country elections. Think of the major strategic implications of a pro-Russia or anti-democratic US administration for example...
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Where are you exactly where people say ‘call to arms’ as anything other than idiomatic call to action?
Well I think to be fair-minded if "call to arms" is idiomatic, then you have to assume that "stand back, and stand by" is as well.
You can't arbitrarily take one literally and one not. If they both idiomatic, then they are both equally harmless.
Re: Jack Dorsey says he agrees with reversing Trump's Twitter ban
#114Before this turns into a culture-war-fest consider this: if Twitter is to be a global platform, it probably should NOT take political sides and if it is to censor anyone permanently, it should mostly adhere to local courts and similar entities. It's not about Trump or United States. It's about everyone else. World is a really messy place. It's not very easy generally to decided if in a political conflict one or other…
What nonsense.
Donald Trump violated the twitter ToS on the daily, as well as local law. I'd be permanently banned from Twitter if I did what he did.
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I think anyone pitching the “paradox of tolerance” needs to understand recursion a little better, or perhaps try to understand how their argument looks in a mirror to someone who disagrees with their stated position.
> understand how their argument looks in a mirror to someone who disagrees with their stated position Care to elaborate?
In my opinion that "paradox" is just used as a justification to silence speech of others. All one must do is label their opponent as "intolerant", and all of a sudden all bets are off. And frankly, nowadays more and more perfectly normal behaviour such as simply disagreeing is seen as intolerant.
Re: Jack Dorsey says he agrees with reversing Trump's Twitter ban
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I think anyone pitching the “paradox of tolerance” needs to understand recursion a little better, or perhaps try to understand how their argument looks in a mirror to someone who disagrees with their stated position.
> understand how their argument looks in a mirror to someone who disagrees with their stated position Care to elaborate?
The problem is exacerbated because 'intolerance' is a buzzword like 'violence' now. It's a label used to attempt to silence or de-platform a dissenting opinion.
The people applying the label are often themselves the perpetrator of intolerance against a valid, and perhaps even mainstream, political viewpoint. Turns out silencing your political opponent is an extremely effective strategy.
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#118Should there be a Penal/Criminal Code for Social Media violations rather than indefinite bans?
Edit: By the respective tech companies not something enforced by any branch of government.
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My anxiety when reading news online or listening to radio went noticeably down when Donald Trump was banned from Twitter, and I don't live in the US. I entirely agree with you.
I think this is the fault of the news media exploiting peoples anxieties for clicks and engagement. They made everything seem like some kind of catastrophe.
Selective memory or maybe from a place of privilege?
His team called their initial orders their 'shock & awe' strategy and resulted in colleagues not able to come to school+work because they were not allowed back to the US after visiting relatives. You may have been unimpacted, but each such action is real to the people under the boot, and that was just them testing their powers and setting precedent.
That was just the beginning, and as with the Roe v. Wade collapse now playing out, every month of hateful rules, non-handling of COVID, and corrupting the executive & judicial branch, many Americans will be feeling the hangover for literally decades. One of the worst US Presidents in history is known for the Trail of Tears, which killed maybe 1% of those on Trump's watch.
Re: Jack Dorsey says he agrees with reversing Trump's Twitter ban
#120Before this turns into a culture-war-fest consider this: if Twitter is to be a global platform, it probably should NOT take political sides and if it is to censor anyone permanently, it should mostly adhere to local courts and similar entities. It's not about Trump or United States. It's about everyone else. World is a really messy place. It's not very easy generally to decided if in a political conflict one or other…
How come this is not a widely held opinion? This view should be a norm. Do not ban a president of a country on social media. Period. When a private company decides to do so, it should be profusely condemned by everyone. Should Putin's twitter be banned as well?
Yes.
I still view Twitter (back when I was on it) as a private business. Like a pub. Chat rubbish, cause trouble, get thrown out.
At the time of the elections, do you remember all the memes about how Twitter was just a tiny portion of voters and that the vast majority were not even on Twitter?
Twitter is not a town square or a centre of free speech. It's a small dive bar in the corner of the city.
Cause trouble, get ditched in the gutter.