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What's the rational for not wanting websites and web apps to disable zoom, and not complaining about all native apps doing it? Would these people want to be able to zoom in native apps as well? Or is there a reason it's fine in native apps but not on the web?
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What? It seems to me the web is accessible by default. Write a plain old HTML page and everybody should be able to read it (assuming they have a computer to open it or a printed version). People go out of their ways to mess this up by using fancy colors, fancy web fonts, messed up JS (frameworks), non standard components because it's cooler, disabling outlines, and so on. Do you have examples where the Web is not acc…
Yeah I agree. A plain old web page is rarely a problem. Ctrl-plus-plus-plus-plus however many times I need it, and I'm good. It's always 'modern' web pages that insist on fighting me.
Yes! I have good eyesight but still frequently zoom for various reasons. The main one is small images and diagrams on responsive websites. Another is clicking small clustered links. In the same vein, if you use images on your responsive website, consider linking to the full size version.
95% of the time this is a complete non-issue for me, since my monitor (for home and work) is a 50" 4k TV and I just abuse the zoom-in feature in Firefox and I'm good, but when the site actively disables zooming, it feels like an almost directed attack towards people like me: Tombert need not read this website.
I don't understand why the functionality exists for websites to dictate how users can and cannot view a page in the first place. This is like if you were reading a book that detected if you were trying to use a magnifying glass and immediately caused a glare to appear to prevent you from being able to read it. It is fucked up.
You don't understand why someone would want to create something the way they want to, really? How much choice do you have in the typesetting of any book you've ever bought? You could still use a magnifying glass on your monitor, as some Russian General was photographed doing recently... . . Obviously I think the choice to disable zoom, etc, is daft, but ultimately that is the creator's right to call, advisedly or oth…
For whatever reason, my Firefox was already ignoring these artificial restrictions intended by the creators, and I was able to zoom as normal. Does that affect the creators of these websites in any way whatsoever?
In all cases, I can zoom all elements (text, images, the works) just fine, up to 500%.
Firefox 100 on Windows. Is this just another one of those "Safari on IOS is broken, so the Web is broken" things, or is there more to it?
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> ... a small minority ... presbyopia ... I think what you just indirectly pointed out is that software is largely written by young, ignorant people who don't appreciate that everyone will get to experience presbyopia, and it happens sooner than you think. Maybe we should require product owners to be at least 40 years old ;-).
I've become "that guy" in presentations who constantly tells people "fonts too small", "can't read cause the contrast isn't enough", etc... My hope over time is that I stop being invited to meetings or people actually take the time to fix their presentations before it is presented to a wider audience.
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The goal isn't to help the readers though, it's to convince web developers to fix their websites. Anyone can find the secret override setting if they're motivated, but that's not a solution to the problem. I know web developers don't care, but they're still the ones that can actually solve the problem. It's possible that like many other abused web features, Google will eventually change the setting for this feature f…
The goal isn't to help the readers though, it's to convince web developers to fix their websites. It seems like that battle is already lost, this isn't some default setting that they are just accepting, web developers are doing it because they think they have a good reason, some random blog post isn't going to change their minds.
Bringing this to developers' attention might very well be enough to get tons of people to remove the zoom block from their websites.
Vision: Game Boy Advance-sized website. Problem: Very tiny. Solution: Scale to viewport in integer increments. Result: https://anaminus.github.io/ This disables zoom. In fact, it actively fights the zoom level to always fit the viewport. Have I committed a great sin?
To be honest, It makes me recall painful WAP[1] browsing on an old Nokia phone.
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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Application_Protocol
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> ... a small minority ... presbyopia ... I think what you just indirectly pointed out is that software is largely written by young, ignorant people who don't appreciate that everyone will get to experience presbyopia, and it happens sooner than you think. Maybe we should require product owners to be at least 40 years old ;-).
I've become "that guy" in presentations who constantly tells people "fonts too small", "can't read cause the contrast isn't enough", etc... My hope over time is that I stop being invited to meetings or people actually take the time to fix their presentations before it is presented to a wider audience.