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Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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A lot of the problem is that Kahn is just not a great teacher, but he sets the tone for the whole thing. So instead of being a platform that amplifies great teaching, it amplifies mediocre teaching. It’s a leadership problem where the leader doesn’t realize that he’s not the best in the world, but instead of using his pulpit to reach out and amplify the best in the world, he just amplifies himself.

You already made this point an hour ago and the fact here is most don't agree. Move on.

Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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In some places, remote learning can be far superior to locally available education. I love the Khan Academy and I hope they are successful in this project too.

There's definitely a market for it. I recently learned about expatschool(dot)io, which does the same thing and targets expat kids. Their concept is interesting, they don't give grades, it's similar to Montessori education but they claim to have a strong math/science focus for students who want to go that way.

Imo online learning should always be a last resort though. The socializing aspect is important, having kids grow up in from of a computer screen without being able to fool around with their friends and explore the physical world around them seems sad.

Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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Very favorable comments all around from the very online crowd who comments here. I’m much more skeptical. I have no doubt this will work well for some students, but as someone who taught online for the better part of two years I can say with certainty that the experience is very different and (for the wide majority of students) worse than being in person. My colleagues and I can attest to both general learning loss (…

> In intro classes in our department, mean grades have been a whole standard deviation lower than the long run pre-pandemic average.

Have you ever considered that the digital teaching methods you employed are subpar compared to those a dedicated online only teaching platform might have.

I don't mean to suggest you did not try.

Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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Very favorable comments all around from the very online crowd who comments here. I’m much more skeptical. I have no doubt this will work well for some students, but as someone who taught online for the better part of two years I can say with certainty that the experience is very different and (for the wide majority of students) worse than being in person. My colleagues and I can attest to both general learning loss (…

We’re researchers able to separate the negative effects on children of online learning from the negative effects from other causes such as global panic and uncertainty, the inability to see friends, etc…?

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Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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Very favorable comments all around from the very online crowd who comments here. I’m much more skeptical. I have no doubt this will work well for some students, but as someone who taught online for the better part of two years I can say with certainty that the experience is very different and (for the wide majority of students) worse than being in person. My colleagues and I can attest to both general learning loss (…

The lesson is that education is not one size fits all, something we’ve “known” for a long time: anyone predicting online is the future (or isn’t the future) is missing out on that crucial piece. Online should be the future for people who grow best with online learning, in person learning should be the future for people who grow best with in person learning.

I’d also argue that online school during the pandemic, like remote work during the pandemic, is not representative of online school during non-pandemic times.

Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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Very favorable comments all around from the very online crowd who comments here. I’m much more skeptical. I have no doubt this will work well for some students, but as someone who taught online for the better part of two years I can say with certainty that the experience is very different and (for the wide majority of students) worse than being in person. My colleagues and I can attest to both general learning loss (…

In person is obviously better for actual learning. I went to highschool before online was an option. But a few years ago I was talking to a kid who had the option to do classes online, at their own pace. They were free to take final exams whenever they wanted. If I could complete classes like that I would probably have finished highschool in a couple months. I might not have "learned" as much, but who here actually learned anything inside a highschool classroom? If all you are really doing is box-ticking and passing exams, online learning is definitely the way to go. Let the kids move at their own pace. Let them get out from under the highschool system so they can go onto somewhere where they can actually learn real material.

That said, my highschool did teach, more forced, me to read vast volumes very quickly. That skill really helped at various levels later. But that can be taught in other ways than sitting in a classroom slowly memorizing Shakespeare.

Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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Very favorable comments all around from the very online crowd who comments here. I’m much more skeptical. I have no doubt this will work well for some students, but as someone who taught online for the better part of two years I can say with certainty that the experience is very different and (for the wide majority of students) worse than being in person. My colleagues and I can attest to both general learning loss (…

Online learning is for those who can take advantage of it and accelerate their learning or manage better their time

For those who couldn't stand it should stay behind by attending classes physically

Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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My school made foreign languages completely unappealing to me by teaching them in the most dull, tick-box way possible in a school where even the top set contained pupils who massively cut into teaching time by behaving like animals, if you've ever seen the UK series The Inbetweeners my school was basically that but with grotty 1950s asbestos-chic buildings that hadn't really been upgraded since they were built. I th…

You would be mistaken if you think that is not by design.

Care to explain how you think that is by design? I think it's more a side effect of trying to measure everything or design a system that is easy to measure.

Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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Unless we automate teachers in the near future, I wouldn't hold my breath. Educational content on the internet is paradigm-changing, don't get me wrong: with access to the internet you can access a virtually unlimited set of learning materials: high-quality encyclopedias, books in the public domain, (books outside the public domain if you're willing to pirate), endless videos on virtually any language, any musical in…

We can't automate teachers, in any effective manner. To teach requires an empathetic comprehension of the student's misunderstanding. That right there requirements an AI goal so far a head of our current capabilities, it may as well be called impossible. Modern AI has no capacity whatsoever for comprehension, and that is about as big a failure as something called an artificial intelligence can fail.

We can definitely automate many parts of tutoring, but physical teachers will still be important for the reasons you describe.

Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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You’re comparing short entertainment videos vs something meant to break down subjects and teach them bit by bit. Nobody is using Vsauce to help them study a college course. The videos simply don’t exist , and I say this as someone who’s watched the channels you mentioned.

Apparently you haven’t. DrPhysicsA is literally ALL of physics. Strang is ALL of linear algebra. For any topic there’s someone who’s done it better then KA. I agree that it requires meta-organization, and that’s a valuable contribution, but KA should stick to that par, bcs their teachers are uniformly soporific.

> DrPhysicsA is literally ALL of physics.

There’s more to physics than what one person or organization can teach.

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