You need to name and shame. "FAANG" isn't a company.
I'm this close to naming my next company FAANG.
Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions
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#114This is very anecdotal, but I have a friend that interviewed at Google for a Remote SWE position - everything indicated that it was remote: the posting, the recruiter and the hiring manager.
Now they announced RTO, his manager said: "We're excited to have you at the office" - he was really confused about this messaging, so they forced him to apply to work remotely (even if he had been hired as such) denied his application on the grounds that this SWE role that requires a lot of cross regional interaction and virtual meetings - requires "intense collaboration that you can only get in an office". Total BS.
Needless to say he's leaving. This is such a travesty, total misdirection.
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I'm still holding on to a slight hope that the recruiter will find a hiring manager willing to override the committee and all of my time and effort will not have been wasted. They said they'd keep looking but they were probably just trying to get me off the phone. I'll put it this way. One FAANG I wouldn't work at under any circumstances. One FAANG has been very clear that they want employees on site. One FAANG has a…
> One FAANG I wouldn't work at under any circumstances. Uh Amazon? I hope it's Amazon, not Facebook. > One FAANG has been very clear that they want employees on site. Both Netflix and Apple. > One FAANG has a recruiting proc where you are hired once you pass the interviews, you can figure out your team later. Google? > One FAANG doesn't really fit in the FAANG acronym. Amazon? Apple? Facebook because they've changed…
> > One FAANG has a recruiting proc where you are hired once you pass the interviews, you can figure out your team later.
Google?
That's definitely Facebook.
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This has happened to a number of folks that I have known over the years, and long predates remote work. I have known many people that have picked up and moved across the country for "the dream job," only to return, a couple of months later, tail between their legs, because the job turned out to be unsuitable in any of a dozen different ways (usually, it was because the duties did not match what they were told, but I…
Sounds like a bunch of excellent reasons why such companies should be named. Companies are huge and they can hurt many people at scale. Individuals are small, relatively powerless and easy to manipulate. Especially if they don't organise themselves. Spreading information is the first step of getting organised.
I agree, but it's also a good way to get "blackballed" in today's tech industry.
I would not encourage people early-to-mid-career, to do this.
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#119This is just another thing in a long line of scrupulous things that recruiters do. If bad actors will edit your resume before sending it in then lying about the remote nature of a job is just another part of that. Which FAANG? Name and shame.
I'm still holding on to a slight hope that the recruiter will find a hiring manager willing to override the committee and all of my time and effort will not have been wasted. They said they'd keep looking but they were probably just trying to get me off the phone. I'll put it this way. One FAANG I wouldn't work at under any circumstances. One FAANG has been very clear that they want employees on site. One FAANG has a…
Everyone's trying to figure out which is which, so here are my takes:
Wouldn't work ever - Amazon
Wants on-site - applies to Apple, Google, Netflix. My guess is Apple.
Team assigned later - Facebook/Meta with its bootcamp process
Doesn't fit FAANG - Netflix, it's not uncommon for folks to exclude it due to much smaller size
So most likely op interviewed at Google, which seems all the more likely given a months-long interview process that the company is infamous for, and usage of a hiring committee. My general sense is that their remote story has been somewhat inconsistent over time, so I'm not particularly surprised at internal misalignment.
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#120This happened to me. The interview process went well but the company's closest office was 15 miles from me, which in Atlanta traffic is over an hour. I said I would need to be remote, they wanted me in the office full time. We were using an external recruiter, which I had never done before. Eventually the recruiter negotiated that I'd be onsite for the first month for onboarding and then remote after that. My first w…
> 15 miles from me, which in Atlanta traffic is over an hour.
Sounds like bicycle speed.