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Amazon worker chat app to ban words such as “union”, “pay raise”, “slave labor”
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Re: Amazon worker chat app to ban words such as “union”, “pay raise”, “slave labor”
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Go further. Employees with Neuralink devices can get $10/month in amazon store credit if they turn on thought monitoring. Thought monitoring will collect keywords like "union", "pay raise", and "slavery labor" to enable precise employee interventions. Breaching the employee guidelines is a serious offense and repeated violations can result in termination. Employees can always find another job after all. :)
You don't even need to go further, just go sideways. Consider the difficulty of Uber or Lyft drivers organizing together. They don't know each other and can't easily interact at work or via work, unless the company chooses to provide a communiction platform.
Even more difficult for Uber and Lyft, since their workplace is distributed there can't be any picket line to cross. All you can do is yell loudly enough on social media that anyone who installs a specific app is a scab.
Re: Amazon worker chat app to ban words such as “union”, “pay raise”, “slave labor”
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well if thats the case then a lot of places are working employees to death and should all stop. Amazon clearly has the budget to look after its employees. Noblesse oblige and whatnot.
You clearly have some preconceived grudge towards Amazon or any big employer. They didn't die because they were "working to death." They died because the building collapsed. They deserve scrutiny for that that, but so do the building codes.
This is a reply to both you and the person above you.
There aren't building codes that can stop a tornado, not unless you want military style bunkers everywhere. Tornado's have approx double the windspeed of hurricanes.
In tornado prone places life doesn't stop when there is danger nearby. Instead people go to the safest place they can, knowing it can only help for glancing blows, or weak tornado's.
I quote:
"Thus, to make a structure totally tornado-proof requires that the structure be designed to withstand both the impact of a one-ton boulder being hurled at it at 100-150 miles per hour as well as wind loads of 300 mph or more. This means you need a structure made out of either foot-thick reinforced concrete or two to three inch thick solid steel armor plate. Doors must be solid steel with reinforced frames and extra strong locking mechanisms (otherwise the storm will just suck the door open). No windows."
Re: Amazon worker chat app to ban words such as “union”, “pay raise”, “slave labor”
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If they don’t have a better opportunity than seems like Amazon is providing a valuable opportunity. So when are we letting children back in the coalmines?
This is a terrible analogy and adds nothing to the conversation. We aren't going to make children work in mines, because (as I'm sure you know), adult workers and children are not the same thing. There is a huge chasm between "adult workers making more than a lot of their other opportunities is slightly more cannot unionize as easily using Amazon services" and "put children back in coal mines".
I worked up to 60 hours a week (I'd say avg 50) from the time I was 13 years old making $6 an hour. It was backbreaking, grueling labor. But not a coal mine so no risk of black lung, so I guess everything is okay? Or maybe my parents should have taken advantage of economic opportunities that didn't exist (they looked, constantly, for options).
This was in the US. Most of the time I did my homework in school, cramming in assignments for second period during first period, then 3rd period hw during second period, etc. Child labor isn't dead, and if you truly think that everyone has the economic opportunities to avoid these circumstance then you don't have the scope of experience needed to accurately assess the state of society.
(And no, it wasn't a case of "well if you can't support children you shouldn't have them" The circumstances of the above situation came about long after I was born, though before I was 13)
Re: Amazon worker chat app to ban words such as “union”, “pay raise”, “slave labor”
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well if thats the case then a lot of places are working employees to death and should all stop. Amazon clearly has the budget to look after its employees. Noblesse oblige and whatnot.
The amount of people that don't know what you are suppose to do during a tornado is mind boggling...
There's a difference between not knowing what your are supposed to be doing during a tornado in your home, and what you're supposed to do in an Amazon warehouse. In Illinois, commercial warehouses aren't required to have tornado shelters.
If you grow up in Illinois or anywhere around the midwest, there's a high likelihood you've been through a tornado drill in your childhood.
Re: Amazon worker chat app to ban words such as “union”, “pay raise”, “slave labor”
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why don’t their employees quit then and work somewhere better if they have the opportunity? If they don’t have a better opportunity than seems like Amazon is providing a valuable opportunity. Not to mention we seem to be in a worker-favorable economy.
Say you’re a father. You need to support your family, and there’s an Amazon Fulfillment Center in town. It pays a whole dollar an hour better than the local fruit packing warehouse, which is a huge difference. Amazon is providing me a valuable opportunity! Except now, I’m working myself to the bone trying to fulfill my package counts, peeing in bottles, shitting in bags, constantly stressed about if I can not only me…
If the conditions are that bad, are they really worth the extra dollar per hour? Seems like the fruit packing warehouse is a better choice for most people. Worse employment conditions will always come with a pay premium under competition.
Re: Amazon worker chat app to ban words such as “union”, “pay raise”, “slave labor”
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well if thats the case then a lot of places are working employees to death and should all stop. Amazon clearly has the budget to look after its employees. Noblesse oblige and whatnot.
You clearly have some preconceived grudge towards Amazon or any big employer. They didn't die because they were "working to death." They died because the building collapsed. They deserve scrutiny for that that, but so do the building codes.
I've nothing against big employers, I think the more resources a company has, the bigger their responsibility is to their employees to keep them safe at work.
Re: Amazon worker chat app to ban words such as “union”, “pay raise”, “slave labor”
#118> The major goal of the program, Amazon’s head of worldwide consumer business, Dave Clark, said, was to reduce employee attrition by fostering happiness among workers — and also productivity. Shout-Outs would be part of a gamified rewards system in which employees are awarded virtual stars and badges for activities that “add direct business value,” documents state. At the meeting, Clark remarked that “some people are…
If you still have a prime membership this is a great time to cancel it.
If you have a senator or representative this would be a great time to ask what the fuck is the NLRB doing when there's this much anti union activity going on?
And if they don't respond some more direct action might be necessary.
Re: Amazon worker chat app to ban words such as “union”, “pay raise”, “slave labor”
#119This will probably just develop a worker creole. In high school, we developed new underhanded profanity for the same reasons—-banned speech.
Re: Amazon worker chat app to ban words such as “union”, “pay raise”, “slave labor”
#120Wait I thought words like "master" and "slave" were already not allowed in work correspondence, right? Now it's a great injustice that they're banned? Make up your minds people.
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