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Post by macinjosh » Wed, Mar 23, 2022, 7:33 PM UTC

brettermeier wrote: post #57

blenderdt wrote: post #35

Self hosting is hard. You need to take care of security, backups, software updates, software installation and so on. Even on something like a QNAP (which can be compared to managed hosting) this can be hard. Flip the wrong switch and you expose something to the world. Missed a security update: your device is now vulnerable. While I host a lot of things myself I can understand self hosting is not for everyone.

I tried it but there are so many traps you can fall in, like security settings as mentioned by you. When i had my server online back then, it was hacked 1 week later :D

  - Use unique and secure credentials on each service I expose.
  - I only expose ports 80 and 443 to the public. 80 HTTP redirects to HTTPS/443
  - I keep my software updated (docker-compose pull)
  - Nightly backups to cloud storage and local disk
  - I "airgap" my home network from my hosting network. There is no shared hardware between them including firewalss/routers, switches, etc.

Post by erulabs » Wed, Mar 23, 2022, 7:34 PM UTC

pkulak wrote: post #79

kerblang wrote: post #39

You know what would be kind of neat? Like, a web site you'd go to called makemeoneofthose.com, and you'd click some buttons, and then sometime later you'd have a hosting setup that you own with some software, web server(s) and database(s) on it, and then you can go hack on it yourself, add some features, whatever. Like they send you some AWS keys and say "It's all yours. Good luck and don't forget to pay your hosting…

We used to host our own software. It was called an application and it ran on your personal computer. We just need that, but running on some appliance instead, like a NAS. Package the service up in something like docker-compose, have a way to sell it, install it, update it and support it. Synology is pretty close with their Docker support, but still pretty far.

Post by Jerrrry » Wed, Mar 23, 2022, 7:34 PM UTC

kerblang wrote: post #39

You know what would be kind of neat? Like, a web site you'd go to called makemeoneofthose.com, and you'd click some buttons, and then sometime later you'd have a hosting setup that you own with some software, web server(s) and database(s) on it, and then you can go hack on it yourself, add some features, whatever. Like they send you some AWS keys and say "It's all yours. Good luck and don't forget to pay your hosting…

Post by rcarmo » Wed, Mar 23, 2022, 7:34 PM UTC

Post by Karrot_Kream » Wed, Mar 23, 2022, 7:35 PM UTC

plainnoodles wrote: post #87

lbriner wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The complaint is fair though. Trying to find a complete or the "correct" guide to something is very difficult even when you already know roughly what you are doing. I took me ages to work out how to setup postfix properly from about 10 slightly different "guides". The Postfix book wasn't even that helpful. There are also lots of very out-of-date guides that might have been OK for 2015 but not anymore. They don't get…

Postfix is a special kind of hell though, in that getting a good setup requires wading though decades of legacy stuff and patching together a bunch of non-default stuff to get, for instance, dkim signing and stuff working right. I've done this before myself, and agree it was super annoying and not fun, but I also think it is potentially the biggest outlier in self-hosting difficulty I've encountered. Lots of services…