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Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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post #109

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> If you're not willing to pay for bandwidth you're not a legit customer. If they're not willing to pay a hefty premium for it? I don't follow your comment, buddy. They're already a paying customer paying what was asked of them. Why would you not just use Cloudfare Stream or another option and save roughly 40% of the cost?

If Vimeo has no value-add, then that's what people should be doing. It's not like Vimeo is a platform for content discovery like YouTube so it should be no problem for anyone to switch.

Right. Vimeo has a pleasant player. I like it.

However, it's essentially the same service otherwise. Point your customers or business partners to a URL and they stream it from there.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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> She’s uploaded 117 subscriber-only videos so far, and each one only gets around 150 views on average. Her most viewed video has around 815 views. … Her bandwidth usage was within the top 1 percent of Vimeo users, the company said Well that’s telling. Sounds like a company that’s on the rocks trying to squeeze money out of a small number of users to survive.

To be fair more than 9 out of 10 of youtube users don't get +10K views too...

100,000 views = will come out to 100 dollar payout on youtube.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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post #80

This has been happening for the better part of a decade already. Back around 2012, I had already stopped seeing Vimeo come across my browsing history completely, but I was reminded of it's existence at a film festival where I heard about and saw vimeo being used to screen most of the more independent films. When I asked some of the festival organizers about how movies were screened, they said there were two ways (aga…

Oh man, I love Randall Park. Thanks for this it's hilarious.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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This sounds like a potentially great business clarity move: > We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube” But this part -- bait&switch, with only one week to decide or move, (if that's accurate) -- is not what you want from your B2B solution provider: > “I was already paying $200 a year, which I think is pretty expensive,” [...] if she wanted to keep hosting her content on the site, she’d need to upgrade…

It's not even a sensible or pro-rated increase. Just a shakedown.

Except the point seems to be getting her to leave, not giving her a thoughtful way to stay.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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She makes around $25k a month from her videos, so paying $3.1k for hosting doesn't seem like an unusual cost. However, it's obvious that she derives no benefit from being able to control her own branding or whatever value-add that vimeo provides over youtube so putting it on an ad-supported platform like youtube probably just makes more sense for her.

A single provider deciding to charge you 16% of your revenue is kind of unusual.

Apple’s App Store charges much more than that for a service that includes only very basic hosting of an application package.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

She makes around $25k a month from her videos, so paying $3.1k for hosting doesn't seem like an unusual cost. However, it's obvious that she derives no benefit from being able to control her own branding or whatever value-add that vimeo provides over youtube so putting it on an ad-supported platform like youtube probably just makes more sense for her.

A single provider deciding to charge you 16% of your revenue is kind of unusual.

1%, the 3500 is yearly.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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It's not even a sensible or pro-rated increase. Just a shakedown.

Except the point seems to be getting her to leave, not giving her a thoughtful way to stay.

coupled with the "we are a B2B solution" statement, i think they're trying to shake down patreon, not the individual creators - it sounds like vimeo wants patreon to start sending them money.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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I have over 500 unlisted (meaning you need to have the link to watch it) tutorial videos (30-180mins each) on Youtube. They are used for various programming classes that I teach. Each gets 10-100 views depending on class size.

I know that Youtube is a ticking time bomb for those not monetizing the videos to Google liking. Enough horror stories from HN and friends.

So I would love to find an alternative but each time I investigate alternatives such as Vimeo I go back to Youtube.

Of course, I could self host, but dealing with various transcoding issues is not the best use of my time.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

She makes around $25k a month from her videos, so paying $3.1k for hosting doesn't seem like an unusual cost. However, it's obvious that she derives no benefit from being able to control her own branding or whatever value-add that vimeo provides over youtube so putting it on an ad-supported platform like youtube probably just makes more sense for her.

A single provider deciding to charge you 16% of your revenue is kind of unusual.

It’s 1% of revenue. You mixed up monthly and annual.
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