The idea could also be to first post something obviously fake, in order to make everyone think, that their deep fake video tech is not addvanced enough to create really good fakes. Later they post something, where they put in maximum effort to make it seem real, having people think back to the previous fake and think: "Oh but this looks real and they are not able to produce better deep fakes than that other video."
Zelensky video deepfake
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Zelensky is a nazi, He's not a Nazi, of course, him being of Jewish ancestry, but it did raise some questions for me when a Russian bomb (that killed about 20 civilians) did its thing in Kyiv very close to a boulevard named after Bandera. Bandera is of course a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator. That thing with a Kyiv boulevard being named after a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator you don't see in the MSM. Th…
> He's not a Nazi, of course, him being of Jewish ancestry, That is strong evidence that he isn't, but short of proof. A counterexample from California: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Unz
We have no proof you are not a Nazi either. Let's assume you are, just to be safe. And maybe we can write a few blogs about it and drum up a following?
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#113Is a deep fake asking Ukrainians to surrender an Article 37 violation of Geneva convention for perfidy?
I know false surrender is a crime, but using propaganda to trick the enemy into a surrender by pretending to be them, I wasn't sure.
I guess - is this a tool we will see more often or a tool not fit for civilized warfare?
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Zelensky is a nazi, He's not a Nazi, of course, him being of Jewish ancestry, but it did raise some questions for me when a Russian bomb (that killed about 20 civilians) did its thing in Kyiv very close to a boulevard named after Bandera. Bandera is of course a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator. That thing with a Kyiv boulevard being named after a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator you don't see in the MSM. Th…
Maybe you don’t know but here in Romania we have our fair share of streets named after anti-semites and-or iron guard collaborators. But you’d probably protest if someone called you an anti-semite for this alone.
I'm Romanian and we don't have streets named after Antonescu, which is what Bandera was for the Ukranians in WW2. It is illegal to have streets named after Antonescu, because he killed hundreds of thousands of Jewish people in WW2, apparently in Ukraine is still legal to have a street named after Bandera, who collaborated in the killings of Jewish people in Nazi-occupied Ukraine.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
People are less aware how well video can be faked with few resources, so they're more likely to believe it.
That's the same moral panic there used to be about Photoshop. It turned out that people don't believe tricked imaged without any context.
Although every mildly surprising authentic image is also now greeted by inevitable shouts of "FAKE!".
In a world of easy image trickery, people stopped believing any image they didn't want to believe.
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#116I always find it interesting to watch the trickle down of news I find here on HN. I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the US. It always goes the same; see fake thing called out for being fake on HN. One week later, hear rumblings related to the fake thing in my community. One week after that, hear people openly talking about how that fake thing is true, but Google/MSM don't want you to hear about it. Su…
I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the country and it’s nothing like the caricature you just mentioned. It is, though, safe, polite, and friendly. And people are happy to leave other people alone.
Living in rural America, where it is safe, and folks are polite and friendly and happy to leave you alone (if you're white), I have to say that doesn't mean people don't believe batsht crazy things. Because lots of them do. Or at least say they do, 'cause there is a big step between saying you believe something and actually acting like you do.
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#117In Swedish telephone directories there used to be a section entitled "Om kriget kommer" (If there's war). Prominent among it was the phrase: > Varje meddelande att motsåndet ska uppges är falskt. (Every message stating that resistance has ceased is false). No doubt something similar is stated in Ukraine. https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/siteassets/5-information-och-f...
Interesting! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_the_war_comes
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Zelensky is a nazi, He's not a Nazi, of course, him being of Jewish ancestry, but it did raise some questions for me when a Russian bomb (that killed about 20 civilians) did its thing in Kyiv very close to a boulevard named after Bandera. Bandera is of course a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator. That thing with a Kyiv boulevard being named after a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator you don't see in the MSM. Th…
What questions did it raise for you?
How come in Romania (from where I'm from) it is illegal to have a street named after Antonescu (our Bandera counter-part from WW2) while in neighbouring Ukraine it is not? Why aren't they 100% for eliminating their Nazi past from, well, the present?
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#119Does Zelenskyy have a public-private key pair he can use to digitally sign videos which are to be uploaded to the internet?
I doubt the public targeted by this video knows what a key pair is, let alone how to use one.
I was thinking more the infrastructure, though I guess the video streaming services are probably hostile actors too. Something like “this video was not signed by the president” similar to a blue check mark on the bird app.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Information dissemination must be similar to fluid dynamics. It just has to be. It’s simpler and more insidious than that. I’ll use the old Eleanor Roosevelt quote: "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." Most people are not that intellectual and probably spent most of their life gossiping. They wouldn’t know how to even discuss certain topics if the low hanging fruit of…
> I’ll use the old Eleanor Roosevelt quote The quote seems appropriate for a person that doesn’t want to be talked about. I get what it’s going for but “only small minds talk about people” feels like it serves political elites very well. Don’t talk about me and my conduct. Talk about the generalised idea of conduct by people who are somewhat like me! I studied politics at university and learned enough about political…
Talking about people in politics is almost always a smoke screen. There are weakest links in every political caucus. Personal failings are a fine reason to dislike or vote against specific people, in most democracies we each vote for a person and who that is should absolutely matter, but it generally has nothing to do with the actual issues. The fact that you hate the Clintons (with you there) or can't stand Trump isn't really relevant IMHO to whether you vote for your specific local Republican or Democrat candidate.