I'm reading this on a 27" 5K imac from 2014. It's a nice screen. But it's eight years old now. So, what's new?
in 2014, you could buy a 27" 5k iMac for 2000$. Now you can buy the exact same monitor, for 1600$. We've made a lot of progress.
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Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display
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#112No 12Hz is so unfortunate. Hopefully the next Pro Display XDR will have ProMotion, at the very least.
It'll have to wait for a new Thunderbolt Standard to make it to Macs. TB4 tops out at 30GB/s, while 5k/120hz is 32GB/s.
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#113Webcam and sound aside, the display specs seems very similar to the LG Ultrafine 5k released all the way back in 2017 for $1299: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HMUB2LL/A/lg-ultrafine-5k... The Studio Display is an additional $300.
Presumably with a much worse webcam and speakers. It's also ugly black plastic compared to the aluminum construction of the Apple display.
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#114No 120hz listed in the tech specs, that’s gonna be jarring for people with a M1 macbook pro.
There's a good reason for this: Thunderbolt 4 doesn't have enough port bandwidth. TB4 can carry a max of 30Gbps but 5K @ 120hz is 32Gbps. There's no way Apple would do two cables for this, and the next gen of Thunderbolt is a while off, so the choice makes sense.
Doesn't display stream compression support higher bitrates? Also, I think thunberbolt 4 supports DisplayPort Alt Mode 2.0, which can handle up to like 80Gbps. But I guess that comes at the cost of attaching any other devices other than the monitor.
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#115For all the work Apple is doing to improve their environmental impact (which I applaud) I'm completely flabbergasted as to why this is a single device monitor. It's quite the impact on the environment to require users who have a Mac mini/Studio and a MacBook Pro to buy two monitors (no matter how great the production chain is).
Sure, you can plug/unplug the cable, but that works so-so on a Studio with the ports on the back.
Everything else I could've lived with, this is a major omission :(
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#116Finally an AR coating on a monitor without the grainy sparkly look! I bought 3 highly rated monitors last year and returned all but one because the anti reflective coatings were visually distracting and made the screen look dirty and unsharp. The one I kept still has the effect, but to an “acceptable” degree relative to the others and I was tired of returning monitors. Hopefully other manufacturers will follow suit -…
The thing is, for most people a glossy monitor with an AR coating is a good compromise, since reflections are a lot more distracting than a slightly matte finish. For a studio monitor this isn't a consideration, but in general the finish is mentioned in the specifications.
The problem is, some monitors aren’t “slightly matte” - many are very matte, and you can’t tell just how matte they are into you receive them, since the finish is always just called “matte”.
Glossy isn’t ideal but I’d definitely take it over spending $500 on a 4K ultra sharp display only to view everything through a fine layer of grainy rainbow colored dust.
Apple’s nano-matte technology seems like it could be a wonderful albeit expensive compromise, but I know I and many others are willing to pay the premium.
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#117No 120hz listed in the tech specs, that’s gonna be jarring for people with a M1 macbook pro.
There's a good reason for this: Thunderbolt 4 doesn't have enough port bandwidth. TB4 can carry a max of 30Gbps but 5K @ 120hz is 32Gbps. There's no way Apple would do two cables for this, and the next gen of Thunderbolt is a while off, so the choice makes sense.
I think your math is off a bit. TB3/4 carries 40Gbps and 5k@120 is 53Gbps (5120 * 2880 * 120hz * 30bits/pixel). But your point still stands :)
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Macs does support non-integer scaling. In fact, macOS currently ships non-integer scaling by default in certain MBP models. It gets criticized from time to tome, though the newer 14/16” MBPs ship 200% as default again.
Unless things changed since last I checked ~2 years ago, macOS’s 150% scaling actually renders at 300% and downscales. It looks pretty bad (visible aliasing on any kind of text) and is wasteful performance-wise.
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#119I'm reading this on a 27" 5K imac from 2014. It's a nice screen. But it's eight years old now. So, what's new?
Speaking as someone who's in the market for a new display, I haven't been able to find a quality 27" 5K screen. LG has one, but it gets poor reviews. Everybody else is selling 4Ks, which is lower effective resolution than what I'm using now (a 23" 1920x1200 Apple Cinema display). So this is definitely appealing to me.
I am in the same bucket. LG Ultrafine is the only option which seems available. But it's an old model and I am surprised the lack of availability from the other manufacturers.
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#120Any mentions of the refresh rate? I've been waiting for a 4K/5K display that supports 120 Hz to pair nicely with my 2021 MBP, but it looks like the only available options so far are funky gaming displays: https://tonsky.me/blog/monitors-mac/
60hz, there isn't enough port bandwidth in TB4 to handle 5K @ 120hz. Anything coming close to being capable enough is years away still.
No, there is with DSC. 144Hz with HDR, or 180Hz with SDR. Or even 240Hz with two HBR2 streams.