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Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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> Freedom of speech is not freedom of inciting violence and hatred. Zelensky lied about a Russian shell hitting a nuclear plant and called for retaliation, which is exactly inciting violence. There's a lot of misinformation spread by both sides (Russia and the West) but silencing any of them would be stupid and unfair.

> but silencing any of them would be stupid and unfair. unfair to whom exactly? Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the massacre of its citizen is certainly a bigger injustice.

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Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Zelensky was talking about an attack that happened within hours of his message, can't blame him for fog of war. And he didn't call for violence but for response from international community, which frankly he has every right to do when fascist invaders are taking over major nuclear power plants in your country, don't you think? You seriously bringing up that example in contrast to russian propaganda machine weaponisin…

> can't blame him for fog of war That's exactly what you should, though. Especially if you're in his position, where the smallest wimp is taken as fact. > And he didn't call for violence but for response from international community What exactly would you think the "response" would be if the nuclear plant was actually bombed? You don't have to be a geopolitical expert to know it is violence. > You seriously bringing…

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Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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A page that doesn't even reveal openly who runs it (real names, affiliations, background) is completely worthless crap. If you judge alleged "news" uncritically like that, just by consuming it, you're part of the problem.

They don't have to reveal their identities in order for their statements/arguments to be valid. It also eliminates authority bias.

They sure as hell have to do that, it's basic journalistic integrity. These people could directly sit at their FSB office and you'd never know. You don't know who does it, who pays for, and you don't have the slightest clue how to fact-check their "arguments."

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Yeah, sure, let's completely depend on our own honest media rather than being able to cross-check it with opposing parties. It surely won't create an echo chamber wherein our own media could report whatever they want, it surely won't result in less objective reporting and more propaganda.

the issue now is not "how good of a reporting does this or that media produce?" the issue is "a literal fascist government is invading a sovereign country and their propaganda machine is in full throttle mode".

> the issue is "a literal fascist government is invading a sovereign country and their propaganda machine is in full throttle mode".

Explain to me how you would come to that conclusion if it wasn't for the media? And how would you justify spreading that information if it came from "not really accurate or objective" media? Without being able to cross-check, you're just spreading one-sided gossip, if not rumors like the snake island story.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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the issue now is not "how good of a reporting does this or that media produce?" the issue is "a literal fascist government is invading a sovereign country and their propaganda machine is in full throttle mode".

> the issue is "a literal fascist government is invading a sovereign country and their propaganda machine is in full throttle mode". Explain to me how you would come to that conclusion if it wasn't for the media? And how would you justify spreading that information if it came from "not really accurate or objective" media? Without being able to cross-check, you're just spreading one-sided gossip, if not rumors like th…

i am ukrainian and i am in contact with multiple people affected on the ground.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Good. It’s important to be able to see all sides. Everybody with a brain will know to be very skeptical of any news source directly controlled by a government. Same is true for CGTN and other channels still on YT.

Right now it is worthless, anything on RT about the "special military operation" is 100% propaganda. It's just fun watching their presenters try to act normal.

RT's cover of the war is quite good if you want to read the party line view of it in english - which of course is interesting. TASS is better though.

RT cut down their tabloid tone a notch too.

RTs main problem is that it is called Russia Today. That is a worthless name to do foreign psyops ... learn from al-Jazeera.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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> rules that demand to always provide both sides perspective Not sure what country you're referring to, but there's certainly no such rule in the US, Australia, or the UK. In the US it would be unconstitutional.

The US actually does have regulations that requires that, although it’s fairly weak: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule This rule has actually had a notable effect in the current election cycle: https://www.newsweek.com/fccs-equal-time-rules-prompt-statio...

The regulation requires equal access for political candidates during an election, which is substantially different and weaker than the claim I was rebutting.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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> the issue is "a literal fascist government is invading a sovereign country and their propaganda machine is in full throttle mode". Explain to me how you would come to that conclusion if it wasn't for the media? And how would you justify spreading that information if it came from "not really accurate or objective" media? Without being able to cross-check, you're just spreading one-sided gossip, if not rumors like th…

i am ukrainian and i am in contact with multiple people affected on the ground.

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Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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The US actually does have regulations that requires that, although it’s fairly weak: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule This rule has actually had a notable effect in the current election cycle: https://www.newsweek.com/fccs-equal-time-rules-prompt-statio...

The regulation requires equal access for political candidates during an election, which is substantially different and weaker than the claim I was rebutting.

It is certainly weak, but I think it meets the above-quoted description.

It only applies in certain cases, and only guarantees access to a minimal degree, but it is more than nothing.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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i am ukrainian and i am in contact with multiple people affected on the ground.

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> doesn't make your take any more credible

it makes my awareness of the situation on the ground stronger

> 1) support censorship

of enemy's propaganda vehicle. wonder why would you omit that little fact. getting paid to do so?

> 2) don't care to verify stories

you lying sack of shit.

> 3) are under the impression that being Ukrainian makes your take automatically truthful

you lying sack of shit.

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