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Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

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Welcome to 2022, Google Docs. Unfortunately there's still a long way to Notion or Dropbox Paper.

It's utterly bizarre just how much Google docs seems to have dropped the ball. It really feels like they haven't developed the product in the past 10 years. This is the first significant feature change that I can recall in a very long time other than minor UI tweaks.

I find it incredible that Docs is still unable to number headings. And they're trying to sell it to large organizations...

Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

#112
I tried this the other day. I had a document with some tables that could use extra width, so I switched to landscape mode and reduced the margins. I then adjusted the width of the tables so they looked decent at 10 inches wide.

Later, I turned on pageless mode. Now the tables all had horizontal scroll bars. From TFA I see that I could change the view to medium or wide, which is a personal setting. Thus, if I use pageless mode with wide tables my view may be fine. Everyone else has a miserable experience until they find this setting.

Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

#113

I'm aware this isn't their primary use case, but the biggest feature missing from GDocs that moves me to notion / etc. is the lack of built in support for codeblocks. If they had that I really feel I would move most of my doc-writing here.

I use an add-on called Codeblocks. It lets you select a block of text and will format it as monospace w/ syntax highlighting in various themes.

Not quite as good as native support (e.g. doesn't update dynamically), but otherwise it's pretty solid.

Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

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I'm in the business of building an online word processor - https://www.zoho.com/writer It's interesting how the documents industry is moving from print oriented legacy softwares (Google Docs, Word) to block based, app-ish, smart canvases (Notion, Coda, etc). Also both Microsoft & Google have adopted completely different strategies to compete in this market. Microsoft launched Loop as an entirely new app while Google…

Just a vote for Zoho. It's a really impressive collection of integrated business tools. I keep discovering new things every time I check it out.

Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

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That is a weird criticism. A document is clearly not a webpage, main use of Google docs is easy collaboration and that’s not really a thing with html. Most people would not set up something like a git repo to track changes and comment on the content for example.

My comment was not meant as criticism. I'm not sure why anyone would interpret it as such.

It came off as sarcastic initially to me, but I read it again and realized it was earnest.

Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

#116

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I agree. I have over 50 US patents, and the multitude of patent lawyers I have worked with all use docs with change tracking enabled. EDIT: parents -> patents

>I have over 50 US parents I feel for you, my kids have two US parents and they find them to be quite the pain in the ass. :-)

:-)

Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

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I'm in the business of building an online word processor - https://www.zoho.com/writer It's interesting how the documents industry is moving from print oriented legacy softwares (Google Docs, Word) to block based, app-ish, smart canvases (Notion, Coda, etc). Also both Microsoft & Google have adopted completely different strategies to compete in this market. Microsoft launched Loop as an entirely new app while Google…

What's the benefit here? Seems like it's touted as an innovation, but the only thing I see is that page breaks are gone. Which isn't bad, I mostly use Google docs for online articles and to maintain a todo list, so things are now a bit cleaner. But it doesn't seem like a big change...

The last time I printed something written on google docs was probably 2012 or so, a printed copy of my resume

Limiting my docs to a IRL format doesn't make much sense to me, page breaks make no sense, with H1/H2/H3 etc you can just navigate the doc that way, and internal links work etc. No need to say "check out the flurple widget subsection on page 92" you just slack/email them the link to the subheader or H3 or whatever and bam they're there reading what you need them to look at, similar to markdown docs on github, but with all the manual formating GUI'd away.

Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

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> If your document contains elements like footnotes, headers and footers, or watermarks, and it is converted to pageless, those elements will not be visible.

Headers and footers are print-oriented, but losing footnotes is not ok. They could have displayed on the side, or highlighted in some way to display on mouse over or click. Whatever, just make them available...

Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

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But think of how much less paper you'd throw away in switching to one of those endless towel rolls.

I'm not so certain you'd be saving. Unless you get a TP holder with sharp metal teeth and consistently use it to get straight cuts to avoid wasting a good part of each roll on those angle tears.

Cuts? No: https://www.domesticuniform.com/product/smoked-continuous-ro...

Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

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I'm in the business of building an online word processor - https://www.zoho.com/writer It's interesting how the documents industry is moving from print oriented legacy softwares (Google Docs, Word) to block based, app-ish, smart canvases (Notion, Coda, etc). Also both Microsoft & Google have adopted completely different strategies to compete in this market. Microsoft launched Loop as an entirely new app while Google…

A tangential question on Zoho Writer: why isn’t there any information on pricing (or a statement that it’s free)? I looked for pricing links. I even went to the resources page and searched for pricing and found no results. The very first thing I need to know when looking at an online platform is what kind of lock-in exists, how I can safely try it out and how much time I should invest in trying it out. The Writer pages don’t help me in this regard. I’m on mobile using Firefox Focus, if at all this happens to be a browser and/or ad blocker issue.
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