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iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by paxys »

abestic9 wrote: post #19

I'm optimistic that Apple is working on most of these issues (especially catch-all) right now and this is just representative of their new offering. Like many things I've seen from Apple it will take a release cycle or two (of 1-2 years per cycle) to bring in this arguably basic functionality - as is tradition we'll groan about other issues being held back in favour of fancy new features. I have no doubt they intend…

> I have no doubt they intend to fully compete with the email services from Google and Microsoft

Both Google and Microsoft's email services are aimed at large enterprise customers. Apple is targeting theirs towards individual end users and their families. They aren't competing in the same space.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by crossroadsguy »

abestic9 wrote: post #19

I'm optimistic that Apple is working on most of these issues (especially catch-all) right now and this is just representative of their new offering. Like many things I've seen from Apple it will take a release cycle or two (of 1-2 years per cycle) to bring in this arguably basic functionality - as is tradition we'll groan about other issues being held back in favour of fancy new features. I have no doubt they intend…

I agree with you.

In fact I am planning to create accounts for my yet to be born children just so that they will be able to have that @icloud.com. Because like you I also have faith in Apple and I’m pretty sure they would take 10-15 WWDCs stage announcements to get all of these things right unless they deemed these features as “nobody wants it and we know what they want instead”.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by crossroadsguy »

isoprophlex wrote: post #107
silvestrov wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would fear that Apple forgets about the feature after a few years and then just drops it. This is not central to their business and Apple trims such things very agressively. I would always buy a domain-email from somebody who has this as their main business, and I would never couple my email to Apple which could lock me out of my account if they think I "behave suspiciously".

Single point of evidence counter to that: I remember in the early days of the iPhone that it took a couple of years, but eventually I had a smartphone that could gasp copy and paste text ;)

Anybody on any macOS > Catalina? Can you still delete/select multiple messages in Messages app the way you can do on iPhone? Because I can’t on Catalina.

Do the deleted messages on one device syncs and gets deleted on another? No luck here as well. Support replied saying “they’ve checked and their systems are working fine and they can’t do anything about it more”.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by encryptluks2 »

cube00 wrote: post #37

Catch-all addresses are a must have for me now. I allocate unique addresses to every website as these are more robust then using the + operator because they can't be stripped off. I've already busted one company (I presume selling) my email address to a cloud provider for them to send me marketing material. I emailed their privacy officer and didn't even get a reply, but that's OK, if it continues, one sieve rule and…

I've detected an Xfinity data breach using custom aliases, but so far Xfinity refused to acknowledge anything.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by encryptluks2 »

M5x7wI3CmbEem10 wrote: post #93
7steps2much wrote: post #47

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Just my personal opinion, but the reason I got a domain to start with was to not be dependent on a specific provider. Also, it's is far nicer to be able to simply sign up to a website with company@example.com than go generate a random email. Especially if you are on another device.

doesn't this lock you in with the domain provider? google domains or whatever you use

Using a custom domain is precisely to prevent lockin that you are getting with many of these alias providers. If you don't own the domain then you can't migrate to a different provider.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by AnonHP »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #113
isoprophlex wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Single point of evidence counter to that: I remember in the early days of the iPhone that it took a couple of years, but eventually I had a smartphone that could gasp copy and paste text ;)

Anybody on any macOS > Catalina? Can you still delete/select multiple messages in Messages app the way you can do on iPhone? Because I can’t on Catalina. Do the deleted messages on one device syncs and gets deleted on another? No luck here as well. Support replied saying “they’ve checked and their systems are working fine and they can’t do anything about it more”.

This may not help, but here goes. Deleting SMS messages on one device never gets synced to another device for me. I rarely use iMessage, but I expect SMS to also be handled the same way (since I have SMS forwarding setup and get the same messages on multiple devices, with all of them tied to a single Apple ID).

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by encryptluks2 »

domlaut wrote: post #60
voisin wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not use iCloud’s private email feature to generate a new email that forwards to your regular email for these purposes?

I use an email like this for our ISP at home -- one time I was asked what the email on the account was. Much easier to remember and dictate something like comcast@surname.com than one of Apple's "Hide my email" emails.

It sounds great in practice, but unless you are using something psuedorandom, then I can already guess you may have a domain at chase@surname.com or facebook@surname.com. It may be convenient but certainly takes away some of the work if someone wants to target you.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by gommm »

mortenlarsen wrote: post #56
cube00 wrote: post #37

Catch-all addresses are a must have for me now. I allocate unique addresses to every website as these are more robust then using the + operator because they can't be stripped off. I've already busted one company (I presume selling) my email address to a cloud provider for them to send me marketing material. I emailed their privacy officer and didn't even get a reply, but that's OK, if it continues, one sieve rule and…

I use "-" instead of "+" with a regex: "/^name-.*@mydomain\.tld$/". Then I block them when I get spam after they get compromised. Many spammers already know to remove anything after the +-sign. But I must admit that the biggest benefit of this setup, was listening to my girlfriend on the the phone explaining to someone, at some company, the reason that their name was part of the email-address: "That is because if I g…

Because spammers know to remove anything after + or - sign, I've set up an arbitrary sequence of letters so gommmm iai + anything I want will root to gommmm@

I've CS question why I used their company email in my email address and it was fun!

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by rekoil »

rez9x wrote: post #22

I use ProtonMail because of their good support for custom domains. Their higher focus on privacy and security is nice, but it has little to do with why I chose them vs competitors. The only downside is you have to use the ProtonMail app or website on mobile, because of the way they do mailbox encryption.

What put me off from ProtonMail was their ridiculous "pay us money for extra domains" charge which makes it obvious to me they are not as honest as I initially thought they were. Allowing me to connect other domains to my one mailbox shouldn't cost them anything beyond the initial costs of developing the code to support multiple domains which they've obviously already done.
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