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Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by AitchEmArsey »

yellowbird wrote: post #59
AitchEmArsey wrote: post #12

Looks great - so much so that I assumed it would be for Apple devices only, so congratulations and thanks for the Linux support. I'll try it in a bake-off with Obsidian, but the main down-side for me is "notes stored on our servers" - I'd happily sacrifice the collaboration features for a self-hosted option with my data kept as regular text files as much as possible.

Obsidian Personal is free and seems to fit your self-hosting needs better.

I already use Obsidian (paid version as I want to use it for work too, and to support the project). My interest in trying an alternative is mostly just curiosity.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by davchana »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #51
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate fees but you're right. In the past when a developer shipped software they could move on to other things, but these days there's always a new version to ship with some sort of upgrade or patch. That said, some apps still don't need frequent updates, and those apps should be offered as a traditional purchase.

In which case you get what you pay for; there are plenty of apps like that that don't work anymore because they are one-off purchases and the author does not want to fix issues that make the app no longer work on newer versions of your OS of choice.

True, people can sell software for one time purchase, for this(current) version of operating systems. Any new OS version comes, if software works, good for customer; if OS breaks things, then the developer can sell an upgrade, for that OS version.

Edit: this will be difficult for server hosted apps. It will work only for apks, exe, or client sided installs.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by reidjs »

aikinai wrote: post #92
reidjs wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither of those apps do markdown, which I NEED, so I pay for a markdown note app

What is the advantage of Markdown over rich text without extra characters?

In addition to what the other posters mentioned, markdown/plaintext is easier to work with for automation tasks.

For example I schedule tweets through markdown files https://github.com/reidjs/markdown-tweet-scheduler

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by angryasian »

I didn't see how to backup and store files locally. Not owning my own notes would be the biggest concern for me. If I were to ever quit your service I want to still be able to keep my notes and have them be usable in obsidian as an example

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by reitanqild »

theodorejb wrote: post #78

From the features page: > On Supernotes your data is always encrypted in transit (forced SSL) and encrypted at rest (AES-256). Our team will never read or access your note content, unless we have received your express permission during a customer support interaction. Sorry, but the fact that you can read it makes this a no-go for me. Unless a note-taking solution offers end-to-end encryption, I don't consider it a sa…

Sorry, this is the day when I decided to start downvoting people who demand E2E-encryption from things that obviously don't need it.

At this point I am just fed up, but to be constructive:

- E2E-encryption is a seriously nice property. If it was free and simple we should use it everywhere.

- Picking on nice things that absolutely doesn't need E2E-encryption however is just counterproductive, and most people who do so (I haven't studied you in particular) seems to have no clue about when and why it is useful.

-Let me give some ideas: there seems to be lots of people who claim to need E2E-encryption but cannot take basic security precautions like separating work/personal, avoid linking their social media profile etc in their profile, etc etc etc.

- Basically: if someone isn't wearing a cap, using tails, paying in cash, updating ones notes via a directed antenna connected to a distant open network

- and if they haven't considered the pros and cons of connecting to the same network every time (what if "they" are onto one and are right now using a directional antenna to pinpoint ones direction) vs different ones (reduces that risk but simplifies triangulation)

- and haven't considered their cover story for why they were out biking without a phone but with a laptop and a directional antenna, or considered cash (less traceable) or card (don't stand out)

- ... then there is a fair chance they don't actually need E2E-encryption

- and if they share the stuff they are hoarding, the chance is even bigger.

- That said: again, E2E-encryption is a seriously nice property that simplifies a number of other problems. I'll pay premium for it even if I don't need it. But I don't need it for diary, not even for notes about customer systems.

And as I write this I can almost hear glass shattering all around me. I'm logged in through corporate WiFi and I don't care ;-)

Edit: let me also add that 1.) most people have now clue about how to verify E2E-encryption 2.) for web applications it can trivially be circumvented by anyone who can single handedly push code to prod and you won't know before much later 3.) it can be done selectively against one user and on most users it will leave no trace at all (a patched minified script with no caching that sends encryption keys back isn't hard at all, is it?)

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by theodorejb »

reitanqild wrote: post #116
theodorejb wrote: post #78

From the features page: > On Supernotes your data is always encrypted in transit (forced SSL) and encrypted at rest (AES-256). Our team will never read or access your note content, unless we have received your express permission during a customer support interaction. Sorry, but the fact that you can read it makes this a no-go for me. Unless a note-taking solution offers end-to-end encryption, I don't consider it a sa…

Sorry, this is the day when I decided to start downvoting people who demand E2E-encryption from things that obviously don't need it. At this point I am just fed up, but to be constructive: - E2E-encryption is a seriously nice property. If it was free and simple we should use it everywhere. - Picking on nice things that absolutely doesn't need E2E-encryption however is just counterproductive, and most people who do so…

> things that obviously don't need it

Why do you think a note taking service doesn't need end-to-end encryption? Perhaps you don't care if a rogue employee reads your personal diary, or if the company gets hacked and all your private notes are stolen. Or if an overreaching government demands your data.

Personally I do care. The note taking solution I currently use has E2E encryption, and I won't consider switching to a different solution that lacks this.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by dmonitor »

WaltonGoggins wrote: post #73
renw0rp wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wanted to say that you could try a bit harder to justify the price rather than just saying it's "negligible". I think that's very subjective and I personally don't think it's a reasonable price to pay for just storing markdown files in the cloud.

Sure I can but I didn't think it was necessary. I used to hand-write my notes, filling a £10 moleskine journal every month or so. Supernotes saves me £4 per month and I get the benefits of all of it's features.

Supernotes is competing with more than just pen/paper

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by dmonitor »

reidjs wrote: post #114
aikinai wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the advantage of Markdown over rich text without extra characters?

In addition to what the other posters mentioned, markdown/plaintext is easier to work with for automation tasks. For example I schedule tweets through markdown files https://github.com/reidjs/markdown-tweet-scheduler

Twitter doesn't support markdown, though. You're just posting text files. That's only a markdown file by technicality
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