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Reddit can't build a better search engine

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Re: Reddit can't build a better search engine

#111
that's just false. I often want to advertise in subreddits but either the mods don't allow anyone to advertise or the reddit ads are really crappy and juvenile. If i could have a spot on the sidebar of reddit search results i d happily pay more than i do for their cpc ads

Re: Reddit can't build a better search engine

#112
They don't have to. They just have to be a better option to look for acceptable "answers" (and can be acquired even via google anyway, at least for now).

The real underlying point is the degradation of Google's default results; manipulation of boolean syntax to filter for certain characteristics and Google becomes a tool to find answers elsewhere rather than from Google's own results directly.

Re: Reddit can't build a better search engine

#113

This thesis is off. It's not as if Reddit just appeared on the internet yesterday. It's been a place people look for this kind of info for a long time, and people have been trying to game it for just as long. And it already has a good search engine - that just happens to be Google. So it still leaves the question: why does Reddit still have such a high signal-to-noise ratio. A few things I've noticed: 1. A lot of con…

I mean the example given is something about a car review. If it wasn't for reddit, it's likely the search query would be suffixed with a community name (like traditional forums), or a (to the searcher) known car review site. That said, the difference is that reddit has forums for everything, so you can expect to find a community about cars on there; if you're a noob at cars, you probably don't know which communities there are, what they're called, or if they're reliable.

Re: Reddit can't build a better search engine

#114
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is only more recently that they seem to have given up. They haven't given up; the OP has a point. The "sites" you are hoping for Google to return _don't exist_. Any website online right now that doesn't exist to drive ad revenue is exceedingly rare. In 2001, there were way more websites that existed just for fun; any tom, dick and harry could open up note pad and get a website online. That doesn't exist anymore.…

It is largely Google's fault. Example. If you searched the word "flight" in 2002, the first two results would be NASA links and the third would be the Museum of Flight. These pages still exist. But now the entire first page of Google search results are cost comparison websites. This is Google's badness, not the web's.

I mean, you do you but when I search flight I for one am looking to purchase a flight. If I want NASA links or the Museum of Flight I would specify that.

Re: Reddit can't build a better search engine

#115
There is a Chinese counterpart/copycat of Reddit --- Tieba. It is owned by Baidu (counterpart/copycat of Google). More introduction can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu_Tieba.

Tieba was once popular just like Reddit. Then, the management (of Baidu) figured out how to make money with Tieba and its search engine to promote brand and erase negative comments. Not much people use it anymore.

The point in the article is pretty convincing to me.

Re: Reddit can't build a better search engine

#116
>So how can we fix the system? The best way to fix the system is to prioritize websites that are there to share knowledge, not websites with their primary priority to make ad revenue.

Different solution:

- Make a search engine that is actually good. Blacklist all SEO spam such as pinterest, allow complex queries, restrict by date, site, regex, etc

- Charge 1 cent per search, or as much as is necessary

Why has nobody done this? What am I missing?

I would totally use this. And if the pricing were correct, you wouldn't need a captcha and could just expose it as an api for bots

Re: Reddit can't build a better search engine

#117
post #114
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is largely Google's fault. Example. If you searched the word "flight" in 2002, the first two results would be NASA links and the third would be the Museum of Flight. These pages still exist. But now the entire first page of Google search results are cost comparison websites. This is Google's badness, not the web's.

I mean, you do you but when I search flight I for one am looking to purchase a flight. If I want NASA links or the Museum of Flight I would specify that.

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Re: Reddit can't build a better search engine

#118
post #114
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is largely Google's fault. Example. If you searched the word "flight" in 2002, the first two results would be NASA links and the third would be the Museum of Flight. These pages still exist. But now the entire first page of Google search results are cost comparison websites. This is Google's badness, not the web's.

I mean, you do you but when I search flight I for one am looking to purchase a flight. If I want NASA links or the Museum of Flight I would specify that.

Alternatively, I could have searched for "flight comparisons" or "US airlines" back in 2002 if that's the type of result that I actually wanted.

The problem is that there is no way I can tell current Google to give me stuff that's interesting, novel and information dense anymore. It's all well and good if I knew that the Museum of Flight existed before my search, but the point of Google is to tell me about its existence. I can't tell Google "flight ... but no cost comparison or airliner website stuff"; such a query is currently not possible.

Re: Reddit can't build a better search engine

#119

This thesis is off. It's not as if Reddit just appeared on the internet yesterday. It's been a place people look for this kind of info for a long time, and people have been trying to game it for just as long. And it already has a good search engine - that just happens to be Google. So it still leaves the question: why does Reddit still have such a high signal-to-noise ratio. A few things I've noticed: 1. A lot of con…

My dissertation was about point #2.
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