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Re: On the Future of 12ft

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I used 12ft for some time and got tired of loading bloated news websites twice. Archive.today is a good alternative but means making copies of crap articles somewhere else, while I just want to read them once. Ultimately I recommend txtify.it, a service that uses Readability, as a more sensible solution. Bookmarklet: javascript:q=location.hostname+location.pathname;location.href=" https://txtify.it/"+q ;

Why not use the reader viewer feature of Firefox and Chrome? With Firefox I even like the fact that you can use text2speech so very long stories can be put on the background.

Recently reader view in FF has been only showing the blob of text that shows before the paywall.

Re: On the Future of 12ft

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The problem I have with news sites is that in-general, news sites are extremely hard to cancel subscriptions to. Even piracy sites that offer "donation benefits" are usually non-recurring or easily-cancelled. Even though I can easily afford to pay for the New York Times or Wall Street Journal, in-practice, I refuse because I know that cancellation is going to be an extremely arduous activity that isn't going to be fu…

News publications also still think they're competing with each other. Like, it seems like each newspaper assumes you're going to subscribe to them and then go there every morning like it's the 1990's and get 100% of your news from them, and charge accordingly. If I'm going to pay for news it's going to have to be an all-you-can-eat deal like the music streaming services. I'll pay if it means that like 70% of the news…

Isn't Apple News doing something like that?

And Twitter also has Twitter Blue, where they've done a deal with a bunch of sites so that if you click a link while on Twitter (and are subbed to Twitter Blue) you will have an ad-free experience while browsing the external site.

Re: On the Future of 12ft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

News publications also still think they're competing with each other. Like, it seems like each newspaper assumes you're going to subscribe to them and then go there every morning like it's the 1990's and get 100% of your news from them, and charge accordingly. If I'm going to pay for news it's going to have to be an all-you-can-eat deal like the music streaming services. I'll pay if it means that like 70% of the news…

Isn't Apple News doing something like that? And Twitter also has Twitter Blue, where they've done a deal with a bunch of sites so that if you click a link while on Twitter (and are subbed to Twitter Blue) you will have an ad-free experience while browsing the external site.

Yeah Apple News is a good step forward, but it's region-locked and not available where I live. I didn't know what about Twitter Blue, but the fact that you have to go through Twitter seems rather limiting.

At least it seems like some people have identified the market, hopefully it develops from here.

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