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Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by asadlionpk »

cronix wrote: post #75

So I never created a Twitter account. Over the years, there are a few people that I liked to read their thoughts on Twitter, so I'd manually go to their wall and read occasionally. They're all verified. Over time, it became cumbersome to continue doing this and I thought I'd give in and create an account (on the website) so that these people were all easy to access from a single point. So I did, and went and immediat…

Sadly, your outcome is an outlier. The conversion funnel using those hostile tactics is significantly higher than churn in short term, and that's all that matters for someone's promo packet.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by jabroni_salad »

j4yav wrote: post #36

I actually still get a pretty decent experience out of Twitter. The only topic I really engage with is remote work.. I don’t follow very many people (only humans who post real content) and unfollow anyone who goes “off topic”. Which is too bad, but it keeps my feed simple and sane. I feel like Twitter would be way better if people had different topics you could subscribe (or not) to.

That's kind of the rub with twitter, it puts individuals front and center... and individuals presumably have more than one interest that they might want to talk about. I mainly use twitter to surface fanart and some communities are very organized with using the right #tags, and when I check those tags I have a 100% hit rate on finding something new that I want to see. But anything else on that site is a crapshoot. It's kind of twitter's normal culture to be disorganized, but I'm pretty sure I and everyone I interact with on twitter are actually tumblr refugees and we're very diligent with tagging.

You're really better off with traditional thread-based forums to have conversation topics. Muting somebody's entire existence just because they occasionally dirty the general feed with 'offtopic' just doesn't seem like a sustainable way to use social media.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by onesafari »

cronix wrote: post #75

So I never created a Twitter account. Over the years, there are a few people that I liked to read their thoughts on Twitter, so I'd manually go to their wall and read occasionally. They're all verified. Over time, it became cumbersome to continue doing this and I thought I'd give in and create an account (on the website) so that these people were all easy to access from a single point. So I did, and went and immediat…

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Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

cronix wrote: post #75

So I never created a Twitter account. Over the years, there are a few people that I liked to read their thoughts on Twitter, so I'd manually go to their wall and read occasionally. They're all verified. Over time, it became cumbersome to continue doing this and I thought I'd give in and create an account (on the website) so that these people were all easy to access from a single point. So I did, and went and immediat…

> I have never encountered a more hostile website

I think Instagram and/or Pintrest often require you to log in before letting you see even the first picture you click on.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by AniseAbyss »

screye wrote: post #79
johndfsgdgdfg wrote: post #31

FB deservedly gets a lot of criticism. I personally feel Twitter doesn't get its fair share of blame. IME Twitter is the most toxic social media platform out there. Twitter deserves a fair share of blame for the divisive political culture we live in right now. I hope these companies go bankrupt and it'd be nothing but a blessing for humanity.

Twitter aggressively censors anyone without institutional approval. Twitters scratch the elites' backs, so the elites scratch back. Trump was banned from Twitter first. Any one with mildly right wing opinion is insta-banned from twitter. Blue checkmarks are strongly tied to institutional approval and fringe institutional voices are given a megaphone. Twitter perpetuates the current class system. So those in power hav…

Trump is part of the elite just not the elite Twitter is part of.

You think the elite all think the same? No they have their political differences. But you don't have to cry for him the GOP has its own media empire.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by scarface74 »

johndfsgdgdfg wrote: post #31

FB deservedly gets a lot of criticism. I personally feel Twitter doesn't get its fair share of blame. IME Twitter is the most toxic social media platform out there. Twitter deserves a fair share of blame for the divisive political culture we live in right now. I hope these companies go bankrupt and it'd be nothing but a blessing for humanity.

If your FB newsfeed is toxic, it’s because you have toxic friends.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by scarface74 »

djbusby wrote: post #97
scarface74 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So how well does revenue tell a story if you have negative unit costs? If you keep losing money, you eventually run out.

Nope. Cause you have growth, which gets new investors who bring in Money - if you can convince them your Growth numbers are good.

It’s called a Ponzi scheme. It works until it doesn’t. See Robinhood and Peleton.

All five of the Big Tech companies were profitable before they went public. Even Amazon had positive margins and they were plowing money back in to the business. Most of the former unicorns don’t have positive margins.

“Growth” is okay if your funneling profits back into your business. But see DoorDash. How do you not money delivering food when everyone is afraid to leave their house like in 2020?

It’s not about growth, it’s about attrition. Every VC is hoping that they can pawn their money losing investments off to a gullible public.

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