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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by enkid »

unmole wrote: post #102
MBCook wrote: post #48

Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

What exactly does deleting episodes get Spotify? I'm really not seeing the grand strategy you are alluding to. Edit: I missed the obvious sarcasm. I need coffee.

I'm pretty sure the comment is sarcasm.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by bourgoin »

I did a rough tally of the 70 removed episodes:

Comedian: 45, Political Commentator/Media Personality: 8, Brian Redban: 5, Health/Fitness: 2, Scientist: 2, Author: 2, Musician: 1, Pornstar: 1, (MMA) Fight Companion: 1, Giorgio Tsoukalos, Kevin Smith, Cliffy B & Johnny Cristo (can't even figure out who these last two are)

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by kcplate »

crate_barre wrote: post #12

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Chances are he has an out if Spotify violates the content agreement. They knew precisely what they were buying…and I am sure he has a remediation capability in his contract when there is a content dispute.

Also, have an upvote, I hate fuck faces and dick faces who downvote because of cursing. Reminds me of all those morality prudes demanding album stickers and whatnot.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by [deleted] »

tedd4u wrote: post #32
jimmygrapes wrote: post #20

Remember all those times you have seen gaslighting ideologues saying "nobody is actually calling for [canceling/deleting/censorship]", remember how they couch any argument with "private company can do what it wants". I don't care about Joe Rogan in particular, but you're deluding yourself if you think there isn't some relevance here. A lot of people now suddenly hate Joe, the same way they hate Jordan Peterson, the s…

So, it’s pretty serious. Spotify is paying Joe Rogan to broadcast disinformation that is getting people killed. I think it’s okay in this case if people have a sudden change of opinion or a newly formed strong opinion. He didn’t crack an off color joke.

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by utunga »

unmole wrote: post #102
MBCook wrote: post #48

Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

What exactly does deleting episodes get Spotify? I'm really not seeing the grand strategy you are alluding to. Edit: I missed the obvious sarcasm. I need coffee.

Understandable given how dry - but you may want to tweak the settings on your sarcasm detector.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by fastball »

unmole wrote: post #102
MBCook wrote: post #48

Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

What exactly does deleting episodes get Spotify? I'm really not seeing the grand strategy you are alluding to. Edit: I missed the obvious sarcasm. I need coffee.

Pretty sure the first sentence is sarcasm.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by lamontcg »

MBCook wrote: post #48

Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

Spotify also has very little user stickiness. I switched pretty painlessly to Tidal and now I get better quality audio and the artists get more royalties and I don't have to have JRE and Peterson staring at me every time I login.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by TOMDM »

paulcole wrote: post #100
silisili wrote: post #47

This is idiotic. I really respected Spotify for their position in the face of 'controversy.' I'm not a JRE listener, but believe in free speech. What Spotify is doing now just pisses off both sides. Pro speech people don't like this, JRE listeners don't like this, and anti Rogan people won't stop until he's 'canceled' completely.

> Pro speech people don't like this I’m “pro speech” and I love this! No governmental agency stepped in and told Spotify what to do. They have a contract with Joe Rogan, are ostensibly honoring it, and are making a decision on what speech they want to be associated with. What else do you want them to do? Be forced by someone to make a decision they don’t want to make? That doesn’t sound like something someone who bel…

Exactly, if you want to take issue with Spotify's decision that's fine, but calling this a speech issue is short sighted.

Would we really want to further limit what right holders are allowed to do with their property?

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by MattGaiser »

echelon wrote: post #107
MBCook wrote: post #48

Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

Every platform is eventually going to have to deal with this. The correct move is to be a free speech maximalist (in either political direction) until laws are broken. You can also make rules against directed harassment and threats. Tell the detractors that "it could just as easily be your side being silenced", because that's the honest truth. People will complain, but only the fringes will leave.

That ends in a cesspool that nobody is willing to spend money on or do business with.

See Voat.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by bmarquez »

MBCook wrote: post #48

Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

> Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not the controversial ones?

Yeah I don't get this part. While I could understand why they'd want to remove Alex Jones, there are uncontroversial names like Tim Ferriss who were also removed.

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