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Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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It'll be interesting to see how this compares to the FF VI Pixel Remaster which is scheduled to come out sometime this month. The previous Pixel Remasters have been very good, especially the music which has been absolutely phenomenal

I just wish the Pixel remasters would release on an actual console. Shame to play these things on a phone.

They're on PC on Steam, no need to play them on a phone!

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Look at an everdrive. I'm not sure about compatibility. I have a very old NES everdrive and some hacked games work while some don't. I would ask on the support forums for someone to try it out for you before buying. https://krikzz.com/our-products/cartridges/spedx5.html

I'm guessing it's going to depend on whether or not the original cart had any expansion chips? E.g. I don't see mention of the SuperFX chip that Starfox requires.

There's a more expensive SNES everdrive product that can handle those games.

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Faust and the Iliad are works in the public domain with many dozens of translations, most of them trying hard to be "faithful" or "accurate" in one sense or another. When they're retold, adapted, reinterpreted, they're not usually billed as the original work, but rather a retelling or what have you. Joyce didn't stick Homer's name on Ulysses and bill it as an English version of the Odyssey (just set in Dublin to bett…

I didn't bring up Faust or the Iliad, works that don't actually have anything resembling an 'original'. Still not sure what, specifically, this is a response to.

Of course the Iliad has an original. It's a poem written by Homer [1]. Feel free to read the original yourself [2] if you don't believe me.

I suppose you might interpret "Faust" as possibly referring to the general legend of Faust, but OP was almost certainly referring to Goethe's Faust, "considered by many to be...the greatest work of German literature" [3]. Likewise, as proof by existence, here's the original (in two parts) [4], [5].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad

[2] https://el.wikisource.org/wiki/%CE%99%CE%BB%CE%B9%CE%AC%CF%8...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goethe%27s_Faust

[4] https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Faust_-_Der_Trag%C3%B6die_ers...

[5] https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Faust_-_Der_Trag%C3%B6die_zwe...

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Surprised to see FFVI mentioned here in HN. That said, I HIGHLY recommend playing thru the recently released FFVI-T edition that's recently become available thanks to an incredible translation effort by Tomato. It corrects a number of mistranslations and adds a TON of content and scales up the difficulty. I thoroughly enjoyed the replay. The original release: http://tomato.fobby.net/ff6-t-edition/ Which now directs i…

would you recommend this for someone new to the game? In addition to this, OP's version there also appear to be new remastered versions of the older games.

The FFVI T edition rom hack is the original game with a proper translation, higher difficulty and additional content like tavern quests, new weapons, etc. It also contains some quality of life improvements (sprint shoes no longer need to be equipped, for example) and corrects some calculations. For reference I made it about 60 hours and still have much to do. My only gripe was that battles were stuck on force wait, so you had to wait for things to execute before your ATB gauge would refill. That may or may not have changed as the patch has been updated a bit since I experienced it.

If you're up for the challenge I'd recommend it. As I understand it, the pixel remaster, although interesting looking, lacks some of the bonus content added to other versions of the game. This has that, and much more. It felt polished to me. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Hope this helps

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't bring up Faust or the Iliad, works that don't actually have anything resembling an 'original'. Still not sure what, specifically, this is a response to.

Of course the Iliad has an original. It's a poem written by Homer [1]. Feel free to read the original yourself [2] if you don't believe me. I suppose you might interpret "Faust" as possibly referring to the general legend of Faust, but OP was almost certainly referring to Goethe's Faust, "considered by many to be...the greatest work of German literature" [3]. Likewise, as proof by existence, here's the original (in t…

Again, I did not bring Faust or the Iliad into this conversation. I don't even know what the conversation is about and how it relates to my original comment! Let's wrap this up here because at this point I'm being lectured on the classics by one person who can't spell 'Iliad' and another who thinks it was 'written by Homer' and neither can actually tell me why.

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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post #115
post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course the Iliad has an original. It's a poem written by Homer [1]. Feel free to read the original yourself [2] if you don't believe me. I suppose you might interpret "Faust" as possibly referring to the general legend of Faust, but OP was almost certainly referring to Goethe's Faust, "considered by many to be...the greatest work of German literature" [3]. Likewise, as proof by existence, here's the original (in t…

Again, I did not bring Faust or the Iliad into this conversation. I don't even know what the conversation is about and how it relates to my original comment! Let's wrap this up here because at this point I'm being lectured on the classics by one person who can't spell 'Iliad' and another who thinks it was 'written by Homer' and neither can actually tell me why .

Oh for god’s sake - they were clearly brought up simply as examples of great works of literature that are often translated, and translated loyally when they are, because when translators translate great works of literature they generally try to respect the originals instead of deliberately mutilating them for the sensibilities of their audience. And I’m being scolded for saying that the Iliad was “written by Homer” instead of, what, “was composed by Homer”? “Is generally attributed to Homer”, as Wikipedia puts it? By someone who - either owning to pedantry, bad faith, or extreme ignorance - denies that “the Iliad” as an original work even exists!

This conversation is about whether it's "sinister" or not, as you put it, to make "all sorts of minor changes in the text and images to better fit regional tastes and cultural norms", and whether to call those changes "censorship". jevoten believed that these changes were, in fact, sinister, and explained why - arguing by analogy that making similar changes to works in other artforms to satisfy prudish sensibilities would be viewed as heretical. You then, seemingly, played inexplicably ignorant and focused on the fact that the particular works that they chose as examples were based on mythologies that have inspired other, independent works. The only way your confusion here makes any sense whatsoever would be if you were literally unaware of the specific works they were referring to, particularly when you said that there was "nothing resembling" an original Iliad or Faust, so, taking you at face value, I demonstrated their existence.

As for the question of what constitutes "censorship" - maybe that's what you perceived as the significant part of your comment? I suppose that'd help explain some of your frustration, not that it'd justify your bad faith argumentation or personal slights. Censorship doesn't need to be handed down by official government censors or something - it can be self-imposed, or imposed by copyright holders against the wishes of the original creator, due to political, social, or economic pressure, which is clearly the case here.

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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post #60

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what in the world, I like FF6’s impact the most: truly sinister and relentless villian and coherent storyline, something 7 franchise lacks despite being so entertaining and interesting in other ways but how many people are in this romhacking variant community? I wanted to enjoy FF6 again, and am enticed by a better even more coherent story and stuff, but I know I dont have the patience for that turn based format anym…

Play Brave New World then. It has ten years of development and has reworked the entire game to require thoughtful strategy to get you through.

I just spent a couple of hours with it (first time replaying since childhood) and decided it's not for me, will be trying the OP instead.

While the gameplay changes are overall interesting, fun and welcome (save for not being able to steal from animals), the script is not for me (purely subjective but IMO too much fourth-wall-breaking and lame meme references, and the vibe is more of a loose having-fun-fanslation with lack of depth). While I'm fairly picky with tone and dialogue I still have some nostalgia for the TW translation.

Still, I'm super impressed with the work and care that's gone into it overall, which is immediately apparent just from reading the readme. I think it's more targeted for those who have already played through the original at least once fairly recently, not for properly experiencing the original story in isolation.

Reading about the T edition it seems it's also something best experienced after having completed vanilla first.

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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This game is fantastic, I was fortunate to go to the 25th Anniversary concert in Chicago. It's reportedly Nobuo Uematsu's favorite game as well. Also, FFVI is the only game (to my knowledge) officially released on 8 different platforms across four console generations: SNES, Playstation, Wii Virtual Console, GameBoy Advance, iOS, Android, Steam, and SNES Classic Edition. The story is so good, I've thought they should…

I went down a rabbit hole trying to determine the most officially re-released game. While FFVI does have quite a few, I think the consensus was it's either Doom, Street Fighter II, or Sonic the Hedgehog.

Quite surprised that Sonic the Hedgehog wold be more than Super Mario Brothers (or Tetris, depending on where you draw the line between new game or not).

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Can someone explain the issue here? I loved FF VI (US III), but I haven't heard of it being censored. Edit: https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship#Final_Fantas... Looks like the level of censorship is way below my threshold of what is "news", but a nice clean-up job nonetheless.

I found some (very mild) examples of censorship mentioned elsewhere [1], but I also don't understand the hype here: >In the original North American SNES version the spell Holy was renamed "Pearl", the summon "Jihad" was renamed to "Crusader", and Hell's Rider to "Rider". Many sprites were also censored. Overly revealing sprites, such as Siren, Lakshmi (Starlet), Alluring Rider (Critic), Chadarnook (woman), Goddess, P…

> The overseas versions toned down the dialogue so that, while still biting, her words are overall clean.

This is a tricky one. If you translate it literally, it's really not that harsh at all as Japanese doesn't really use curse words in a similar way as English. The words are overall clean. So a translator always has to make a judgement call of "in which sense is this supposed to be true to the original" and how much of the language-associated-culture to bring into it.

There's many ways to skin a cat.

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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post #91

Sorry for asking basic questions, but how could I play it in todays hardware? Is there an emulator for Linux that could play it?

I can second bsnes. At least for me, snes9x has annoying audio stutters I couldn’t seem to get away from. bsnes also has (IMO) nicer looking upscaling ootb.
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