It would be interesting to see if there is anything which would let black start on equal terms.
Time auctions, used in armageddon chess
Reimagining Chess with AlphaZero
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Re: Reimagining Chess with AlphaZero
#112These changes don't change complexity of the game much, while chess can be altered to have much higher branching factor and move complexity. Check: https://github.com/FrozenVoid/Game-Design-DB/blob/main/Board...
Is this playable anywhere? Search engines only show me Frozen themed chess sets, and people playing regular chess in cold weather.
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#113Is anyone interested in doing this kind of analysis for games that are in development? I am a SWE with 16 years of experience at Google with lots of practical/applied ML. I am about to be funemployed, and I'd love to incorporate an AI player/analysis into the playtest feedback loop of a board/card game in development. I've won the Race for the Galaxy tournament 4 times in 7 attempts at the World Boardgaming Champions…
Another funemployed xoogler here! I've been making games for the last year, and one thing I would definitely love to explore is designing a deep but easy to learn game using learning techniques. We should talk!
You can reach me on: melonmousegames@gmail.com
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is only one way to fix chess and it's called Go. Of course, this isn't exactly chess anymore but like any design decision there are no perf- Wait a minute, Go is perfect. If we forget about ko rules.
I was really impressed by "AlphaGo - The Movie", despite not knowing much about Go, because the way they told the story, people from the Asian countries were so sure their champion would win a Go tournament against a computer, that were stunned into a new consciousness about artificial intelligence when the computer won. This started an arms race in AI is what I gather. Edit: Full movie for free on YouTube: AlphaGo -…
That's a great documentary in general. Recommended for everyone :)
Re: Reimagining Chess with AlphaZero
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about playing two games at the same time? One you play as black and the other white.
This has been tried: "Basque chess - A chess competition in which the players simultaneously play each other two games on two boards, each playing White on one and Black on the other. There is a clock at both boards. It removes the bonus in mini-matches of playing White first. Basque chess was first played in the 2012 Donostia Chess Festival in the Basque Country, Spain. Also called Basque System." https://en.wikiped…
And did it work?
Was the game fair for both players?
Re: Reimagining Chess with AlphaZero
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hmm? Chess is already very drawish at the top level, a specific goal that they highlight in this paper is to unbalance the game.
None of the suggested changes in the paper give black equal or more wins than white. At best they reduce the number of draws, or reduce the disadvantage of black: https://dl.acm.org/cms/attachment/2b6acfe5-8a20-4630-8372-d5...
> None of the suggested changes in the paper give black equal or more wins than white.
Sure. Why would that be the goal though?
Many of them do reduce the difference between black and white, by increasing the number of draws, but that's not generally seen as desirable.