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Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by teitoklien »

nomel wrote: post #110
lotsofpulp wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And IBM lost that status after they decided to tank the relative quality of their product. I presume Apple will suffer the same fate.

> I presume Apple will suffer the same fate. Why? Has there been any trend to indicate they're headed in this direction?

The quality of ios has been reducing a lot recently,

Sure it has been getting a whole lot of very nice features, but ios has been visibly buggy recently to the point where if I don’t reboot my phone atleast once every 5-6 weeks, bugs start appearing constantly,

From glitching of settings app to outright daily crashes of the settings app , to safari acting weirdly, to the home screen’s app drawer vanishing suddenly or the search function vanishing.

Etc, etc.

(I’m on a stable modern ios version)

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by nomel »

dijit wrote: post #92
gherkinnn wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Well, they decided all of their phones Announced but not (yet) implemented. > analyze your locally-stored photographs for child photography Nope. Only the ones on iCloud. > and upload questionable photos to the cloud for human review Also a misrepresentation. > or content that they disagree with (e.g. pornography). True. And yes, I should have a wank to whatever I please. Legality permitting. It is so easy to criti…

> > analyze your locally-stored photographs for child photography > Nope. Only the ones on iCloud. Nope. Only the ones your device intends to send to iCloud. They’re already scanned on iCloud, this was on device scanning before upload. Likely it was a requirement for them to add encryption on the files they store and not have the unsealing keys. Sort of a pre-emotive avoidance of certain political conversations.

> Only the ones your device intends to send to iCloud.

From a practical perspective, for most everyone, "intending to send" and "on iCloud" is probably a 300ms delta in time.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by smoldesu »

nomel wrote: post #110
lotsofpulp wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And IBM lost that status after they decided to tank the relative quality of their product. I presume Apple will suffer the same fate.

> I presume Apple will suffer the same fate. Why? Has there been any trend to indicate they're headed in this direction?

Their software quality has kinda been tanking over the past few years. Pretty much everything after Mojave has started to slide in the "please don't do this" direction (at least for me), and with Apple Silicon I really no longer have any need for a Mac.

I do get where the parent comment is coming from. Commodification of technology can only go so far, and Apple is walking down the same path IBM (or even Microsoft, for that matter) did to learn that lesson.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by Karupan »

lukewrites wrote: post #20
r0fl wrote: post #3

Services, which include iCloud, Apple Music, search licensing and App Store fees, continued growing strongly, rising 25% annually to $19.52 billion. Keeps blowing my mind how consistently services keep growing. Highest margins too. Just printing money!

I feel like I get great value for my Apple One Premier subscription. I already was paying for the largest available iCloud storage. Paying a bit more and being able to host email addresses for private domains, plus having iCloud Private Relay, plus a music service (and my library in the cloud), plus Apple TV+, plus Fitness (use it occasionally but would never pay for it on its own) is a no-brainer for me.

> Paying a bit more and being able to host email addresses for private domains

Woah I had no idea this was a thing! Since Google is forcing the old free workspace users into paid accounts this year, this will be a great replacement. Thanks, I'll have to look into this.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by nomel »

chunkyguy wrote: post #75
mensetmanusman wrote: post #8

As Apple continues to dominate, we can’t forget that the iPhone is approaching >90% utilization by the youth: https://www.howtogeek.com/778355/new-study-says-87-of-us-tee... This means we will soon enough have a situation where a corporation controls the primary medium of communication of the citizens. At this point a smart society would consider how to regulate this situation to safely prevent domination abuse, but…

> “87% of teens own an iPhone Doesn't this imply that parents are the one purchasing it for them? Would be interesting to see how many stick with iPhone when they start earning for themselves.

If it were "87% of teens own Samsung phones", wouldn't this still be true?

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by cassianoleal »

zepto wrote: post #99
cassianoleal wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Under §2 of the Sherman Act 1890 every "person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize ... any part of the trade or commerce among the several States" commits an offence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_antitrust_law#Mo... IANAL, and I'm assuming USA since that's where Apple has 90% market share on the young, but this seems to imply that monopoly in and on itself is illegal.

Why didn’t you include the next paragraph? You seem to be ignoring 130 years of law that happened since what you are quoting. Courts quickly began struggling with the Sherman Act's broad and vague language, recognizing that interpreting it literally might make even simple business entities like partnerships illegal.[9] Federal judges began trying to develop legal principles for distinguishing between "naked" trade re…

Because, again, IANAL, and I don't really understand what that means. If the law is vague, so is this paragraph, at least to my unknowlegeable self. I am also not from the USA and have very little experience or awareness of their laws.

I assure you there was no malice.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by olliej »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #91

25.1% Mac growth. For professionals and enthusiasts, you either just got your M1, you’re saving for one, or waiting on the Pro Desktops. I’m curious to see if there’s any change to the replacement rate of Macs. It seems normal for people to use the same laptop for four or more years — a far sight longer than the two-year life expectancy of laptops twenty years ago, but about half of the replacement rate of smartphone…

I'm hoping for a pro desktop with something more advanced than the current M1s - e.g not just an M1 with more cores. I want a Nvidia/amd class gpu, etc.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by smoldesu »

nomel wrote: post #112
dijit wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > analyze your locally-stored photographs for child photography > Nope. Only the ones on iCloud. Nope. Only the ones your device intends to send to iCloud. They’re already scanned on iCloud, this was on device scanning before upload. Likely it was a requirement for them to add encryption on the files they store and not have the unsealing keys. Sort of a pre-emotive avoidance of certain political conversations.

> Only the ones your device intends to send to iCloud. From a practical perspective, for most everyone, "intending to send" and "on iCloud" is probably a 300ms delta in time.

Well, 900ms now that we have to start up a process to scan it before it's sent off.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by peregren »

olliej wrote: post #117
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #91

25.1% Mac growth. For professionals and enthusiasts, you either just got your M1, you’re saving for one, or waiting on the Pro Desktops. I’m curious to see if there’s any change to the replacement rate of Macs. It seems normal for people to use the same laptop for four or more years — a far sight longer than the two-year life expectancy of laptops twenty years ago, but about half of the replacement rate of smartphone…

I'm hoping for a pro desktop with something more advanced than the current M1s - e.g not just an M1 with more cores. I want a Nvidia/amd class gpu, etc.

Does your hope have any foundation in reality?

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by dwaite »

dijit wrote: post #92
gherkinnn wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Well, they decided all of their phones Announced but not (yet) implemented. > analyze your locally-stored photographs for child photography Nope. Only the ones on iCloud. > and upload questionable photos to the cloud for human review Also a misrepresentation. > or content that they disagree with (e.g. pornography). True. And yes, I should have a wank to whatever I please. Legality permitting. It is so easy to criti…

> > analyze your locally-stored photographs for child photography > Nope. Only the ones on iCloud. Nope. Only the ones your device intends to send to iCloud. They’re already scanned on iCloud, this was on device scanning before upload. Likely it was a requirement for them to add encryption on the files they store and not have the unsealing keys. Sort of a pre-emotive avoidance of certain political conversations.

> They’re already scanned on iCloud

They are not. Other file and photo hosting platforms do not encrypt the data, so they are able to scan server-side. The content is encrypted for iCloud, and the encryption keys are not known by the hosting infrastructure.

This means as an example that shared iCloud albums could be used as a distribution mechanism for child pornography, operating silently until one of the members' accounts gets subpoenaed or they confess and share the list.

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