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We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Post by Dah00n »

paul7986 wrote: post #106
geysersam wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You cannot possibly blame the Chinese government or the people for the Corona virus. That's just insane. Granted, the official response wasn't good. But a virus pandemic was ever only a question of time. It's unlikely it could have been prevented wherever it had started.

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> you want to live like that or remain free

Depends on how you define free. The US population is definitely not free either when seen from Scandinavia. The US is only more free if freedom is defined as Free to be unprotected from big business etc.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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paul7986 wrote: post #94
01acheru wrote: post #14

Hug of death probably so I cannot read the article. Anyway that's the reason why I don't buy Chinese crap anymore. I'm not saying that I don't buy anything made in China, almost everything is made in China, but everyone should avoid Chinese crapware. If something doesn't match the description send it back, if you find random executables that you cannot identify send it back, if you are asked to register on some weird…

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You can all downvote me all u want but my thoughts and the things I type/say on HN later show to be true.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Post by bigyellow »

geysersam wrote: post #97
paul7986 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You cannot possibly blame the Chinese government or the people for the Corona virus. That's just insane. Granted, the official response wasn't good. But a virus pandemic was ever only a question of time. It's unlikely it could have been prevented wherever it had started.

> You cannot possibly blame the Chinese government or the people for the Corona virus. That's just insane.

Insane is what they do to animals in their so-called "wet markets". Take a look at some footage if you still have any respect left for the CCP.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Post by danieltanfh95 »

3pt14159 wrote: post #54
mrunkel wrote: post #15

Given that Windows 7 _Ultimate_ was installed on what is essentially an OEM machine, it's very likely that it's a pirated copy with a "home brewed" license key. I think the most reasonable explanation is that either the OS was sourced already infected, or the crack tool they used was infected.

You know what? I don't care anymore. When this type of thing happens it's almost always China. Whether it's intentional malware or a lack of QA, how could one tell? They have such a reputation for both I don't know why we still let their electronics into our countries.

it's because chinese goods are consistently good that anything bad is news. ironic isn't it

literally everything is made in china, if the quality is as bad as you say the world would have fallen apart.

It seems critical thinking is rare among news outrage these days. The same comments were said of Japanese products back in the day, "IP thieves", "shitty quality", and here we are decades later praising Japanese products. Its hilarious at this point.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Post by caaqil »

gruez wrote: post #91
caaqil wrote: post #31

The malware now has 60/67 rating [1] on VT. Their analysis [2] is pretty good too. [1]: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/1679b086f649d92456b2f600... [2]: (PDF) https://www.rmcybernetics.com/files/pdf/Malware-analysis-Fly...

>Their analysis [2] is pretty good too. seriously? It's rather poor. >It was identified the malware is packed with Borland Delphi 6.0 - 7.0 as shown in the figure below Borland Delphi is a compiler. It's not a packer. Saying that it's "packed with Borland Delphi" makes as much sense as "it's packed with visual c++". >The strings of interest are as shown in the figure below But if it's packed (as previously suggested)…

I mean sure, the analysis isn't thorough and has some oopsies, but from my POV it's not a report written by malware analysts or experts (rather, by someone you wouldn't expect to analyse it at all), so I'm not setting the bar too high.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Post by geysersam »

cinntaile wrote: post #103
geysersam wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You cannot possibly blame the Chinese government or the people for the Corona virus. That's just insane. Granted, the official response wasn't good. But a virus pandemic was ever only a question of time. It's unlikely it could have been prevented wherever it had started.

I don't think the dust has settled on whether this was manmade or not?

Even if it was manmade the responsibility for that should fall on the international scientific community rather than the Chinese government and even less so on the people.

The lab in Wuhan was not scientifically isolated, funding came from abroad. Similar research has been conducted elsewhere.

Of course it's still important to find out the truth on the matter.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Post by Dah00n »

3pt14159 wrote: post #54
mrunkel wrote: post #15

Given that Windows 7 _Ultimate_ was installed on what is essentially an OEM machine, it's very likely that it's a pirated copy with a "home brewed" license key. I think the most reasonable explanation is that either the OS was sourced already infected, or the crack tool they used was infected.

You know what? I don't care anymore. When this type of thing happens it's almost always China. Whether it's intentional malware or a lack of QA, how could one tell? They have such a reputation for both I don't know why we still let their electronics into our countries.

So most of this happens in products made where most of these products are made? Seems logically. Besides it doesn't seem any better in the US. By far the most backdoored internet equipment producer is Cisco.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Post by xibalba »

JediPig wrote: post #110

20 years ago, china hide 2nd network card that was in listener mode, transmitting documents at random times, mostly peek. This was at a research company. How it was discovered. We put a card on listening/prem mode and mirror everything for that subnet the printer was on. I thought I screwed it up with the double mirror/traffic. when investigating why the issue, we found nothing wrong with the config, only when we plu…

> anytime someone says china doesn't steal technology

Does anyone believe that any non-CCP actors are disputing China’s ongoing, massive, organized trade secret theft?

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