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Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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I'm curious if it was related to the file name. I created a few 1-byte files with just "1" in them, with different names, including "output04.txt". No problems so far. Also uploaded variations with "\n" and "\r\n" after the "1". And enabled sharing to anyone with the link. No issues so far. Google drive does support metadata like a description and comments. I wonder if someone posted some copyrighted text in a commen…

They changed their algorithm. Now it will flag files full of 0s.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Do we need to kill copyright? Couldn't we just kill vigilante enforcement of it? Maybe we should make it the law that if you see a copyright violation, your only legal options are (1) nicely ask the infringer to stop voluntarily, or (2) sue.

Copyright is fundamentally a monopoly on data. The very name implies that you can restrict who can copy data, how many copies can be made. Copying data is among the most basic, fundamental computer operations. Therefore all computers are inherently capable of violating copyright, they merely need to be instructed to do so. It's the 21st century and copyright is absolute nonsense. Computers make it seem absurd by triv…

> It's the 21st century and copyright is absolute nonsense.

This is an awful, terrible take. We know that intellectual property is much more artificial than pretty much every other type of property right, but we still want governments to enforce copyright and other IP law because it's a good way to make sure that people have a financial incentive to be creative or do R&D.

Copyright needs reform (and many types of DRM need to be banned), but just because you'd gladly sacrifice thousands of industries (how many jobs is that? millions?) to have some ideological purity, it doesn't mean that such a decision would be broadly supported or even in the best interest of society as a whole.

Source: work in copyright, have seen firsthand how shitty IP protections can destroy businesses that produce excellent content.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Reminds me of that 70s IBM presentation quote that surfaced recently, "A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision". It's one thing to have a computer flag issues, another to make it responsible for taking action and in this case, making a decision final. Google continues to set poor examples with irresponsible implementations of machine learning. With no accou…

I think that quote should be flipped. "A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must always make management decisions."

Or..

"A computer can never be held accountable for decisions, therefore all computer decisions are management decisions."

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of that 70s IBM presentation quote that surfaced recently, "A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision". It's one thing to have a computer flag issues, another to make it responsible for taking action and in this case, making a decision final. Google continues to set poor examples with irresponsible implementations of machine learning. With no accou…

I think that quote should be flipped. "A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must always make management decisions."

I thought the same as that's our current reality. "It wasn't us, it was the computer!" Things are only going to get worse

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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I experienced something similar building an internal tool on GSuite. I had a large file with sequences of 9 digit numbers specific to our use-case, all tied to names of people (employees). Whelp, at one point the tool I was working on stopped working, and it was flagged as apparently containing social security numbers (which I suppose matched the character length). Whelp, on the admin panel, you can get a report of t…

This is another case for only pushing encrypted files to storage hosts, unless it's against Google Drive's TOS or something. Has anyone tried it? Did Google complain?

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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"A review cannot be requested for this restriction" ML enforcing rules is bad enough, but not allowing false positives to be corrected is ridiculous. This is why I would never consider g-suite for any business application. Otoh, I think there is a legitimate business to be made helping small businesses and individuals secure themselves against arbitrary behavior from big tech. This kind of thing can have serious cons…

I've noticed the same behavior with the recommendation engine from Reddit and Instagram as well. While they don't totally block providing feedback on recommended posts that I'm actually not interested in, the UI flow to submit the feedback is difficult/confusing enough that I've just stopped doing it altogether. Could this be because retraining whatever model that they've built is difficult/expensive with new feedbac…

A benign explaination would be that the feedback feature is really designed as a relief valve for the most frustrated users to feel better. Moderately frustrated users will find it takes too many clicks to provide feedback and just scroll to the next item.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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The fact that Google is scanning your files for "copyright infringement" is bad enough. They have no way of knowing that you don't legitimately own something. Then pair that with this example and if that isn't enough of a deal breaker for using Google drive I don't know what is.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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I experienced something similar building an internal tool on GSuite. I had a large file with sequences of 9 digit numbers specific to our use-case, all tied to names of people (employees). Whelp, at one point the tool I was working on stopped working, and it was flagged as apparently containing social security numbers (which I suppose matched the character length). Whelp, on the admin panel, you can get a report of t…

This is another case for only pushing encrypted files to storage hosts, unless it's against Google Drive's TOS or something. Has anyone tried it? Did Google complain?

Tarsnap is entirely encrypted and the service provider can't see the keys. They run it on EC2 and S3: https://www.tarsnap.com/infrastructure.html

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of that 70s IBM presentation quote that surfaced recently, "A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision". It's one thing to have a computer flag issues, another to make it responsible for taking action and in this case, making a decision final. Google continues to set poor examples with irresponsible implementations of machine learning. With no accou…

Yes! This is one thing humans are still much better at than AI: taking blame.

Computer: "It's not my fault". The sunspots made me do it.

Sunspots are computers' devil.

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