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Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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Post by throwaway_4ever »

isuckatcoding wrote: post #90
throwaway_4ever wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously. Am I supposed to just work and have a boring milquetoast existence hiking or whatever to make it to 80? When it really comes down to it, the most euphoric moments and best memories of my life have been messed up on weed and alcohol with people and music. Itd be depressing to move on and just reminisce about when times were better…

Your description of being messed up on weed actually sounds depressing. I’ll take a hike in some beautiful nature anyday over depressing night in smoking weed. You have no idea how positive an effect being outside in nature has on you.

It probably is depressing. I’m expected to choose between a less enjoyable life or knowingly making myself stupider and unhealthier, obstructing other life goals I may have had.

How do you think I’ve never been outside in similar nature? The reality is I’ve experienced both countless times so I literally do know exactly how much of an effect that has while the same can’t be said vice versa. I’ve been to many national parks, forests, beaches, campgrounds, ski resorts, mountains all over the western US for decades. Yes it’s more wholesome and serene, but it’s sadly not a comparison for the sheer euphoria experienced imbibing recreational drugs in a variety of social settings. Why do you think EDC, Woodstock, and other major concerts are so huge?

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Post by Scoundreller »

sneak wrote: post #61

> Cannabis is the third most consumed psychoactive substance in the world (after alcohol and nicotine) and adolescents as well as young adults have the highest rates of cannabis use. More than caffeine? Really?!

I think they mean relative to other age groups and not other drugs.

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Post by kaba0 »

elefanten wrote: post #93
aaomidi wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Appeal to nature is a logical fallacy. Also, from the things we surround ourselves with. It's probably the most natural.

I smoke, but this is dense. Smoking the natural substance is an unnatural use, by that use of the word. “It grows from the earth” Yeah so does hemlock.

Eating fish could be considered as natural as it gets, but there is a species which contains one of the most potent poisons ever found, so..

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Post by dylan604 »

eddyerburgh wrote: post #60
fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #4

My personal experience certainly agrees with this. I definitely shouldn’t smoke on a work night, and it’s not a good idea on Sunday either. The more hours until I need to perform cognitively, the better. I abstained for months before the last time I did job interviews. On the other hand, I know people also gainfully employed at top companies who code while high and claim to have no issues. Your mileage may vary, I gu…

So why smoke at all? Don’t you want to operate in life at your cognitive best?

>Don’t you want to operate in life at your cognitive best?

No. Especially at bedtime, I want to be cognitively stopped. The fact that the cognitive is keeping me awake even though I'm physically exhausted sucks.

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Post by bigbluedots »

jollybean wrote: post #31
Yuioup wrote: post #18

How long do they persist? 1 day, 1 week, a year, ten years? I used to be a daily smoker and was horribly addicted. Now, at least ten years after I quit, I find myself having trouble remembering things. I lose my train of thought a lot too, really annoying. I don't know if that was attributed to my cannabis use, or just my brain in general.

It's a bit distressing how many people don't think weed can be addictive, clearly it is, just not in the same way as something like cigarettes. That said, my friend, 10 years of life make you forgetful sometimes. That's just called living.

It's not addictive, you just can't sleep any more for a while if you try to stop

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Post by colechristensen »

hackly wrote: post #6

First alcohol, now this?! How else will we drown our sorrows and numb our pains?

Calm

Fitter, healthier and more productive

A pig

In a cage

On antibiotics

… by realizing there’s no way to zero risks and that trying to do so leads to a life perhaps not worth living

Who cares if a drink isn’t risk free or a joint makes your a little slower, live a little.

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Post by drzaiusapelord »

hackly wrote: post #6

First alcohol, now this?! How else will we drown our sorrows and numb our pains?

Loving relationships

Healthy habits

Emotional growth

Challenging hobbies

Fulfilling romances

Exercise and using your body

Seeing yourself as a whole, not "othering" others

Making time for family

Telling those you love, that you love them

Spiritual practices

Getting lost in a book

Learning to cook

Volunteering and activism

etc,etc

You know, everything that's wonderful about life before capitalism, or at least the most popular implementations of it, told us we don't have time for such things anymore, that both partners need to work 40+ hours a week each, and we've been finding shortcuts to fulfillment and stress relief since. Worse, the status quo has co-opted a lot of good things and turned them into tools for further capitalist oppression. See "learn meditation to be a better employee to help with stress" narratives pushed at so many companies instead of narratives about "why is our work so stressful and what can we do about it?"

I feel like I can't talk to a coder before the conversation turns into "So what drugs are you abusing to remain competitive in the workplace?" We're in such a sea of workplace oppression, its practically water fish swim in, and its often difficult to point and say "Look, the abuses of low-regulatory capitalism is the water here, do you see it?" Instead we just go back to talking about doubling up on ADHD medicine, microdosing exotic chemicals, getting high to 'get by,' low-key drinking problems, caffeine usage thats out of control, etc.

This stuff, if not real, would be unbelievable in a dystopian sci-fi novel just a couple decades ago, but here we are. We're becoming Mentats from Dune addicted to sapho juice to please our paymasters.

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Post by fulafel »

systemvoltage wrote: post #23

Somewhat of a hot take but I think about this every now and then - simply put, Marijuana is a drug that makes people lazy. It tanks personal productivity. So we extrapolate where large swaths of populations in various states where Marijuana is legalized, wouldn’t that have a huge negative impact on the GDP? Literally neutering people’s productivity. It’s not just careers but I’ve seen addicted people (including mysel…

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