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Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Re: Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Post by robertlagrant »

mrkurt wrote: post #20
hstaab wrote: post #9

Recently, I gave Fly an honest go for a new multi-container project that seemed like a good fit. After digging in, I found that the pg clusters had some sort of system wide bug and couldn’t be attached to any of my apps. It was a bummer. Everything seemed great, I just literally couldn’t use it. I’d love to hear others experiences with the PG features. I could see it replacing Digital ocean for my use cases (if it wo…

I'm sad this bug burned you. We had some brittle infrastructure for talking into a Postgres cluster, and it was a bit of a fire drill to rip it out and simplify. You would have a better experience if you tried today! We know this because we have metrics on how many people created and then destroyed Postgres DBs without successfully connecting an app to them. When we show this to investors we'll explain that the impro…

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Re: Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Post by andy_ppp »

mrkurt wrote: post #40
leerob wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like Fly is moving to usage-based pricing: https://twitter.com/mrkurt/status/1475310487864848391

This is true, but we aren't going to bill per request. We really can't, since we support arbitrary UDP and TCP services. I don't really want to promise anything we haven't shipped yet. But my perfect cloud service (a) charges me when VMs are alive and (b) gives me the tools I need to create/remove/stop/start/suspend/resume VMs based on either network activity or metrics. One flaw of Fly.io right now is that it's rela…

Can you scale each region based on usage i.e. have a huge server in US or Europe and a tiny one in a market you don't have many users in? fly.io is really an incredible piece of work, I'll probably just default to it as I am a massive Elixir fanboy :-)

As others have said $50 seems a very low starting point but if you can make it cheaper why not, just means you've helped more people onto your service and they will grow with you.

Re: Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Post by thejosh »

mrkurt wrote: post #20
hstaab wrote: post #9

Recently, I gave Fly an honest go for a new multi-container project that seemed like a good fit. After digging in, I found that the pg clusters had some sort of system wide bug and couldn’t be attached to any of my apps. It was a bummer. Everything seemed great, I just literally couldn’t use it. I’d love to hear others experiences with the PG features. I could see it replacing Digital ocean for my use cases (if it wo…

I'm sad this bug burned you. We had some brittle infrastructure for talking into a Postgres cluster, and it was a bit of a fire drill to rip it out and simplify. You would have a better experience if you tried today! We know this because we have metrics on how many people created and then destroyed Postgres DBs without successfully connecting an app to them. When we show this to investors we'll explain that the impro…

Great, because I also saw this, otherwise fly is great.

Re: Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Post by KronisLV »

> A note about credit cards

> Even for our free services, we require a credit card number. We know that's the worst and it gives you heartburn. It's not because we plan to charge you.

> But here's what happens if you give people freemium full access to a hosting platform: lots and lots of free VMs mining for cryptocurrencies.

> We could tell you we want to prevent crypto mining because we care about the planet, and that would be true. We also have a capitalism nerve that hurts when people spend our money gambling. Your credit card number is the thin plastic line between us and chaos.

I don't really have another alternative to offer here, but i appreciate the transparency and honesty of saying this, regardless of whether they're right or not.

I wish more companies out there actually explained their reasoning behind decisions, instead of essentially just going like: "We're doing this because of undisclosed reasons, please accept that this is how things are going to be."

Of course, in many cases you can come up with a few feasible reasons for why companies make many of their decisions, but being given first hand context for these things feels nice!

Re: Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Post by js4ever »

mrkurt wrote: post #47
bachmeier wrote: post #41

Curious as to the motivation for this. I've never heard of this company, but the pricing page says the cheapest PG cluster is $6.88 per month. Is that enough to keep their target customers from using their service?

It's an attempt to reduce friction. Developers try services like ours out for fun before they use them in anger. Putting a price on the fun stuff keeps people from trying it. It's not that $6.88/mo is too much, it's that >$0/mo is too much for developers who are used to their side projects being subsidized by monopolies or VCs. People spend a lot of money on infrastructure when they use it in anger. Free apps cost us…

How is it possible that free apps cost you $0.50/mo, the ipv4 alone worth more than that
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