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Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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Re: Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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Tangential and honest question: how do eviction moratoriums help? I can see how a short ban on evictions can help prevent a spike in a homelessness crisis, but long term I really struggle with it. Is the assumption that all/most landlords have infinite money to support non-payers? Are governments subsidizing 100% of the missed rent?

> Is the assumption that all/most landlords have infinite money

Individually, no. As a class, yes. Property rental seems a lot like a Subway franchise in this respect. If one property owner becomes insolvent, the property will be sold to another person who is not. The tenant might be evicted by the new owner but, on average, probably not.

Edit: pardon my obscure Subway reference. Subway franchises are notorious for going out of business with incredible frequency. You'd never notice because an insolvent franchisee's best option is to sell the operating business to another, solvent franchisee. Subway arranges the sales. Then Subway sells more franchises with statements to the effect of "80% of locations have been operating for over 20 years" (not their actual words).

Re: Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The number of nurses that are willing to quit so they aren't required to get the vaccine is insane, and I think that might be what is driving the enrollment reduction.

> "The number of nurses that are willing to quit so they aren't required to get the vaccine is insane" Can you point to some data on this?

Just as a data point, the Québec government went to extensive lengths to get all nurses to vaccinate. They set a hard dead line for them to do so or else get fired. Seeing that a huge number of them would quit, they tried sweetening the deal with a 15 000$ cash payment if they stayed after the deadline (meaning, they'd have to vaccinate) and a lot of other perks.

Yet, the government had to backdown right before the deadline because they literally could not see how the system wouldn't collapse with how many nurses would still be unvaxxed and thus have to be fired. And that's a government that really likes to show how "tough on covid" it is in a very very vaxxed province where you need a vaccine passport for pretty much everything now.

Re: Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly every state has a program to provide some rental payments back to the landlord. It's going to be less and more delayed than rent payments, but that's expected during a crisis. Renting isn't, and shouldn't be risk free.

> Renting isn't, and shouldn't be risk free. That goes both ways, as a renter you risk getting kicked out, while as the landlord you risk not getting paid. Landlords typically evict and get someone who will pay but they were unable to. While there were programs for landlords, it was hard to get money out of them for various reasons.

> That goes both ways

Did I imply it doesn't? Evictions are no longer banned at a national scale. So, uh, yeah? We already know it goes both ways. In this special circumstance, the government essentially came in and said "We're not going to allow you to do that type of business for a bit for the sake of society."

Landlords by definition exist because the state allows them to exist. If the state wasn't there, landlords would probably be at the mercy of the 90% - and things would get ugly. So, to keep enjoying those protections that the government is giving, you need to follow circumstantial business changes. Such as a pandemic.

Re: Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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post #54

Tangential and honest question: how do eviction moratoriums help? I can see how a short ban on evictions can help prevent a spike in a homelessness crisis, but long term I really struggle with it. Is the assumption that all/most landlords have infinite money to support non-payers? Are governments subsidizing 100% of the missed rent?

As a landlord, I can tell you that the government does NOT replace ANY of the missed rent. Moreover, while many tenants have continued to pay their rent - MANY have gradually started realizing that I am unable to evict them, and have completely stopped paying rent. Moreover, they have started collaborating under the assumption that there is more protection if they do it together. Like other landlords, I have lost a t…

Does a tenant's lack of payment effect them negatively in other ways? Like credit report, or ability to get an apartment later (if you evict them after this memorandum)?

Re: Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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I wonder why people think being a landlord is not a job.

why do you think it is one?

There's obviously work in maintaining an inherently depreciating, heavily worn asset. This is true of both landlords and anyone who loans out physical goods as a service.

Re: Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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post #99
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly every state has a program to provide some rental payments back to the landlord. It's going to be less and more delayed than rent payments, but that's expected during a crisis. Renting isn't, and shouldn't be risk free.

> Renting isn't, and shouldn't be risk free. That goes both ways, as a renter you risk getting kicked out, while as the landlord you risk not getting paid. Landlords typically evict and get someone who will pay but they were unable to. While there were programs for landlords, it was hard to get money out of them for various reasons.

If free high-quality public housing is available as an alternative to renting, then fine. Otherwise, why should renting not be essentially-risk-free? People don't rent as some sort of risky adventure, they need a place to live.

I mean, medicine is socialized (*) so that living will be "risk-free" health-wise, so why not housing?

(*) - Yes, I know that doesn't hold in the US...

Re: Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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These headlines are some of the weirdest backwards stories I’ve seen lately. It’s like everyone is desperate to make this into a crisis yet reality isn’t delivering the eviction catastrophe the headline writers wanted. Obviously we’re seeing more evictions now that they’re literally not banned. That’s not news. However, this is shocking: > The rates of evictions served are approaching pre-pandemic levels in certain a…

If you believe that people should NOT be evicted for non-payment, that housing is a human right, and that our social safety net should be strong enough to support these people in need, then its obvious this is a crisis.

Re: Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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post #54

Tangential and honest question: how do eviction moratoriums help? I can see how a short ban on evictions can help prevent a spike in a homelessness crisis, but long term I really struggle with it. Is the assumption that all/most landlords have infinite money to support non-payers? Are governments subsidizing 100% of the missed rent?

As a landlord, I can tell you that the government does NOT replace ANY of the missed rent. Moreover, while many tenants have continued to pay their rent - MANY have gradually started realizing that I am unable to evict them, and have completely stopped paying rent. Moreover, they have started collaborating under the assumption that there is more protection if they do it together. Like other landlords, I have lost a t…

It's a garbage situation. I hope things get back on track for you, and I hope karma gets those people what they deserve.

Re: Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are missing that the pandemic is very much ongoing, despite the government pretending the opposite. At my institution, the semester is starting. We are serving the lower income bracket (read nursing school). Enrollment is down 20 %. This is going to have long-term consequences.

The number of nurses that are willing to quit so they aren't required to get the vaccine is insane, and I think that might be what is driving the enrollment reduction.

> The number of nurses that are willing to quit so they aren't required to get the vaccine is insane

Here are two lists of many, many hospitals that have instituted vaccination requirements and the resulting number of employees terminated for non-compliance:

https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/hospitals/how-many-employee...

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/workforce/vaccination-...

Seems to typically be about 0.5% to 1%, occasionally 2%.

Especially if they are clinical staff: good riddance.

> I think that might be what is driving the enrollment reduction.

I think it's more likely that they can't afford to take the classes (either not having the tuition, or having to work longer hours due to inflation), and/or they're reading all the horror stories about clinical staff suffering endless abuse and in some cases physical assaults from patients, their families, and virtual 'gangs' of anti-vaxxers.

The story about the redditor who was treating a dying patient whose family refused to put on masks so they could visit (and ended up removed from the hospital by security) was particularly memorable for me. The doctor went to the trouble of meeting the family in the parking lot, and for their compassion ended up sucker-punched in the face and waking up on the ground. Security wanted them to press charges but they declined because they were afraid of harassment by gangs of anti-vaxxers organizing online.

That is why people don't want to be nurses. Not because of a vaccine.

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