Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

Post by omnicognate » Wed, Jan 12, 2022, 8:41 AM UTC

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> What else can it be, based as it is in a physical substrate? This is no less shallow reasoning. The question of whether the academic field of statistical modelling already contains the necessary ideas to produce strong AI is not decided, and won't be unless/until somebody makes a strong AI. People have different intuitions about what the answer will be and until it can be determined empirically I suggest treating t…

Sure, but I see no reason to not treat things like GPT-3 and TWDNE as evidence. If it looks like a creativity, and quacks like a creativity, then we should at least entertain the notion that we have a small artistic process on our hands.

Post by Simon321 » Wed, Jan 12, 2022, 8:46 AM UTC

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Indeed, we spent 2 years working on this!!! It's an extremely hard research problem, because darker skin tones account for only about 0.3% of all anime art produced in the world. We have employed an absolutely exhaustive array of art and data science tricks to give the model the ability to draw darker skin tones, though they are underrepresented. The results that you see today are the culmination of many months of ca…

I can’t understand why the GP comment is flagged. If you can look past all the “culture war” stuff, this is pointing out some of the limits of algorithmic creativity. It does not do well generating instances with features that are not well represented in the training dataset. Compare this to human creativity. I suspect that fulfilling GPs request would be almost trivial for a human professional artist. To be clear th…

Post by GoblinSlayer » Wed, Jan 12, 2022, 8:52 AM UTC

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I don't think there's any powerful enough way to stop people from generating one and then tracing over it to create their own linework, and customize things like the colouring and shading. The more broadly AI is able to create, the more niche and obfuscated directions human co-creators could take its products in.

Not to mention the copyrightability of AI output isn't legally well tested, and chances are it'll fall in the direction of being copyrighted by the user (i.e. the person clicking in the UI to make a character, which is where creative input happens), not by the AI creator (who has no creative input into the process; they merely made a tool, like any other piece of software - same reason documents printed from Microsof…

Post by LoveMortuus » Wed, Jan 12, 2022, 8:58 AM UTC

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Right now it's a small team of 6 people, and we have a bit of funding + compute credits to train models. There's a bit of revenue from some past projects and AI-consulting, but we're mostly betting big on our new AI-powerd mobile title Arrowmancer[1]. > I think the effort required for such an undertaking is vastly underestimated by readers. Haha for sure. Hosting a real-time ML model for people to do sub 1-second inf…

That seems like a nice project that you're working on, definitely more high effort than some other attempts at generated art (procedurally or otherwise). I can't help but to feel that this would be a better fit for the fad of NFTs as well, as opposed to ugly monkeys or other asset flips that were pretty obvious cash grabs. Either way, good luck!

Post by akomtu » Wed, Jan 12, 2022, 9:04 AM UTC