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Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by joyeuse6701 »

SkipperCat wrote: post #78
aeturnum wrote: post #49

So many wild things in this, but I was curious about this aspect: > It also helped that I was unemployed. I had time to court her properly. Does anyone find this kind of situation helps their relationship health? I've started relationships between jobs and started them with people who weren't working. It's not always long-term poison, but a big part of a relationship is figuring out if your two lives will work well t…

When men talk about courting a woman. It just sounds like they are either hunting an animal or performing a job. Seriously, if she (or he) likes you, then it just clicks. Talk of putting effort into it removes the humanity of the other person and also gives creepy people the perspective that someone "owes" them romance because they put the hours into it. It's just gross and misogynistic behavior.

For some people… many people struggle with establishing romantic relationships, men and women alike. I’ll be first to admit that the phrasing used by the author is dated, however

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by frazbin »

Kluny wrote: post #48
rl3 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In 2022 who still uses the term "courting"? This guy, apparently: "When I wasn’t lifting and courting, I was building a network of intellectuals interested in problems of governance from beyond the established liberal democratic paradigm." What a sentence. > "I feel like it's a term used by somebody from the Edwardian era who needs a refill on their moustache wax." I knew someone like this. The running joke was tha…

> interested in problems of governance from beyond the established liberal democratic paradigm So... communists? Hippies? Not that there's anything wrong with either, I just find that such people are really into work-trade and barter, but they always have cash for alcohol and cigarettes.

Nah read the mag. He's not a hippie he's a lil baby auth-right.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by decebalus1 »

psyc wrote: post #62
iandanforth wrote: post #47

Such drivel. If you really want to move people to act give them a clear roadmap for a lifestyle that supports years without meaningful income. Did you have $1M in savings? Did you have rich parents? Did you just live off your SO's income? Did you have financial dependants like children or elderly parents? I hope I'm wrong but this just reeks of intense privilege being misconstrued as nonconformity.

1. Don't have kids 2. Work at one or more MAAAMs for 10-12 years, while living on $40k/yr 3. Retire, maintain lifestyle If you somehow run out of money, just pull a Michael Jordan or a Jay-Z Variations include working 3 years on, 2-3 years off, or working 3-4 months per year. The point is that if you're a programmer and you don't have children, you don't have to work very much.

That sounds great. Unfortunately in America, healthcare costs depend a lot on how well your employer negotiates with an insurer. If you're on your own and you want the same level of coverage, you're gonna have to pay a lot more money. If it wasn't for that, I'd have totally taken a sabbatical since Covid started.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by betwixthewires »

SkipperCat wrote: post #78
aeturnum wrote: post #49

So many wild things in this, but I was curious about this aspect: > It also helped that I was unemployed. I had time to court her properly. Does anyone find this kind of situation helps their relationship health? I've started relationships between jobs and started them with people who weren't working. It's not always long-term poison, but a big part of a relationship is figuring out if your two lives will work well t…

When men talk about courting a woman. It just sounds like they are either hunting an animal or performing a job. Seriously, if she (or he) likes you, then it just clicks. Talk of putting effort into it removes the humanity of the other person and also gives creepy people the perspective that someone "owes" them romance because they put the hours into it. It's just gross and misogynistic behavior.

This comment says more about you than them.

It never "just clicks". Meaningful relationships take work. In the modern adversarial dating environment, people are very wary of one another. Helping someone get to know you means getting them to let down their defenses. People are defensive and cautious these days for good reason, but often times it means meaningful connections with potential just don't happen out of apprehension.

These days, a lot of people want a readymade partner. All the tough work of becoming should be finished, there should be no personal growth left to do. If he/she doesn't already have everything you expect then time to look somewhere else. This is unhealthy. We have to rediscover how to look past the trinkets and into the human being we say we want something more with.

It's a pretty idea that people just click, that true love happens effortlessly, but it is not true, and it is a perfect fiction that destroys peoples reasonable expectations and destroys their lives in the process. How many people waited for perfection like that until they found themselves alone at 40? The only thing that just clicks is sexual attraction.

If someone believes someone else owes them romance for putting in effort they have no idea how to go about it, perhaps they never will. When you meet someone who you think is special and you decide to do the work of getting to know them and putting yourself out there for them, you do that knowing that they might not reciprocate, you accept failure as a possibility and you choose to take that risk and engage gracefully.

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Post by chasd00 »

shaneprrlt wrote: post #65

The "virtues" of poverty? Poverty is hell for people who can't choose it. What a cruel statement.

Yeah. I grew up working poor my wife grew up go-hungry-poor, we’re close to out of debt and living comfortably with two kids in our 40s. Poverty? No fucking thanks.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by [deleted] »

deltree7 wrote: post #55
chana_masala wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So, his experiences is very specific to his skills, his reach and societal perceptions about him. I mean, that part is true for literally everyone?

No. We are talking about thresholds. He has advantages that may be applicable to If a person quit their job being a short, brown, woman and found happiness and people willing to help them, it is more likely to be replicated by a broader population. It's like an attractive guy giving dating tips

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Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by dpweb »

darkengine wrote: post #41

I know it's bad form to move so quickly into meta-discussion on here, but I feel a lot of the comments in the thread right now are endemic of a certain closed-mindedness that has, to me, come to define in part the Hacker News zeitgeist, which stands in something of a contrast to the site's supposed founding principle of intellectual curiosity. There is plenty of prior art in Western (and other traditions of) philosop…

Post-PayPal Musk or for instance a big movie star risking every dollar of their life savings in a venture is different than the worker who has saved up their stake over 30 years.

2000’s Musk from his Paypal reputation can easily get a very lucrative job if things go completely to zero. Current day Musk can make six or seven figures just by sending a couple tweets. The movie star with nothing other than their name land a job or six or seven figure deal. They’re never really risking it all.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by allendoerfer »

This article makes me anxious that I just might not have any interesting ideas to share with the world, that I might be stuck in my own perspective and that others will see right through all the fancy words I come up with to masquerade it.

I think I might not be able to refrain from smiling when being called an intellectual. Only positive outlook: At least I do not think I will ever go as far as calling myself an intellectual in my own essay.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by [deleted] »

sanedigital wrote: post #105
hattmall wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you only make $40k a year you aren't going to be paying very much in taxes at all. You also want be paying very much for healthcare as it will be subsidized by the ACA.

If you're self-employed your FICA rate basically doubles. Depending on your state, that means your tax burden at $40K could be ~$9-12K. Even with a subsidy you're looking at another $2-3K for health insurance. That makes your take-home less than $30K, 25% less than what GP proposed was sufficient income for basic comfort.

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