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Railway lines once connected the Middle East

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And get rained/snowed on like an animal?

Plenty of things you do are “like an animal”. I cycle in Amsterdam all the time, and while rain is unpleasant it is really not the end of the world.

Walking barefoot and living in a cave is also not the end of the world, but most of us would not prefer that kind of life. Not everybody is like you and not everywhere is like Amsterdam.

Re: Railway lines once connected the Middle East

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We really need to eliminate car dependence in our cities.

Life is so much more enjoyable when you move away from the suburbs and get rid of your car. The freedom to just walk to your destination and having everything within walking range is priceless.

Seems sad to limit your life to a small artificial space and not being able to roam about when ever you want.

Re: Railway lines once connected the Middle East

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I disagree. The freedom to get in my car and go anywhere in the country, in the company of my entire family, no less, is priceless.

You can rent a car anytime you want to go on a longer excursion. It is far harder to rent walkability or access to amenities. You can’t rent “my children can walk to school and I can walk to pick them up for lunch” nearly as easily. Nor can you rent “it’s my buddy’s birthday and we wanted to go out on the town without a long car ride after”. Nor can you rent the physical benefits of movement to apply to your many car…

My colleague is an avid mountaineer. He has his gear in the trunk of his car at all times. After work, if the weather is nice, he drives to the mountains to go hiking. That would be very hard to do with a rental car.

Re: Railway lines once connected the Middle East

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Some historians point to the Berlin-to-Baghdad railway (barely mentioned in the article) as playing a primary role in the outbreak of World War I. The naval forces of Britain had made the decision to switch from coal to oil, and that mean Britain would have a more maneuverable and faster fleet than Germany - so Germany followed suit. Unlike British sea access to Persian oil at the time, the only German option was tra…

That’s fascinating, I hadn’t come across that. Britain must have needed a ridiculous amount of oil as they were also importing from Mexico at the time. According to Tuchman’s The Zimmerman Telegram, Mexican oil is one of the big reasons that Germany tried to form an alliance with Mexico. Cutting off that oil would have hindered their navy.

The British Navy was vastly more powerful and would have had little trouble blockading Mexico and sinking any German oil tankers. The resources of colonial empires decided the victors of both world wars in my opinion.

Re: Railway lines once connected the Middle East

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Some historians point to the Berlin-to-Baghdad railway (barely mentioned in the article) as playing a primary role in the outbreak of World War I. The naval forces of Britain had made the decision to switch from coal to oil, and that mean Britain would have a more maneuverable and faster fleet than Germany - so Germany followed suit. Unlike British sea access to Persian oil at the time, the only German option was tra…

That’s fascinating, I hadn’t come across that. Britain must have needed a ridiculous amount of oil as they were also importing from Mexico at the time. According to Tuchman’s The Zimmerman Telegram, Mexican oil is one of the big reasons that Germany tried to form an alliance with Mexico. Cutting off that oil would have hindered their navy.

How much oil did Britain need? We always had access to our own oil reservoirs too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_oil

It looks like the Germans had access to it, also?

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This article made me think about how the presence of trains indicate peace. Trains are so vulnerable to attack. Their existence depends on everyone with access to the tracks to trust and agree with their purpose. I suspect if we're mourning these trains, we also mourn the loss of peace and stability in the region. As an aside, TIL that there are actually two Tripolis, one in Libya and the other in Lebanon. I have hea…

> This article made me think about how the presence of trains indicate peace. Trains are so vulnerable to attack. Their existence depends on everyone with access to the tracks to trust and agree with their purpose. I suspect if we're mourning these trains, we also mourn the loss of peace and stability in the region. Trains can also indicate war :) They are crucial for logistics, and were especially so before WW2. My…

After the invention of heavy bomber aircraft by the end of WWI, railways became very vulnerable, and regular train traffic, to my mind, could only indicate peace time. It might be a preparation for a war, but not a war yet.

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You don’t lose any of that having neighbourhoods where you don’t need a car to pick up some milk. I don’t think we should ban private cars or anything, but when public schools have 3 lane car pickup lanes several blocks long there’s an issue.

My cousin's husband has been mugged three times in his life. Each time was when he was walking to school in NYC, each time was with a deadly weapon, and each time there was a chance he could have died. I've never heard of a single person being mugged driving to school. I'm not saying this is the primary reason to have cars and live in the suburbs, but not being forced to share space with every random person in your v…

Where did I say everybody should be in something like nyc density? Even then, there are plenty of cities (especially outside America) where those safety concerns are virtually nonexistent.

Also, the plenty of people get killed in cars.

Re: Railway lines once connected the Middle East

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post #92
post #5

We really need to eliminate car dependence in our cities.

Nope. More electric cars and more highways. Dallas is the future.

The conservative tendency to car apologia is really disappointing. For some reason, it's perceived to be consistent with the conservative worldview, but it isn't. Automobile supremacy requires massive social engineering and state intervention and car-based cities can only remain as such by artificially limiting homebuilding (and therefore density). If you set individuals free to build what the market demands they will create cities in which it's very unpleasant to drive (i.e. densely populated city centers) and those cities will need to solve the transportation problem some other way. The only way you can prevent that is to, well, literally prevent it -- i.e. make it illegal (via zoning).

It’s true that progressives are wild about transit, but I wish more conservatives resisted the urge to view cars as the natural political opposite.

Re: Railway lines once connected the Middle East

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I disagree. The freedom to get in my car and go anywhere in the country, in the company of my entire family, no less, is priceless.

You don’t lose any of that having neighbourhoods where you don’t need a car to pick up some milk. I don’t think we should ban private cars or anything, but when public schools have 3 lane car pickup lanes several blocks long there’s an issue.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. The freedom to get in my car and go anywhere in the country, in the company of my entire family, no less, is priceless.

You can rent a car anytime you want to go on a longer excursion. It is far harder to rent walkability or access to amenities. You can’t rent “my children can walk to school and I can walk to pick them up for lunch” nearly as easily. Nor can you rent “it’s my buddy’s birthday and we wanted to go out on the town without a long car ride after”. Nor can you rent the physical benefits of movement to apply to your many car…

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