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Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by sparkling »

junon wrote: post #86
taspeotis wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes mate, Internet Police Officer Jeff Bezos has been dispatched and will take this illegal website down right away. (Using copyrighted material is permitted under fair use; this website is a parody. I’m not a lawyer but at some level preserving the copyright notice is probably better than claiming it as their own.)

This website is not a parody, and fair use does NOT permit you to retain the original copyright notice on the derived work. You may say that the original work is copyright of the respective owners and that this is a parody work. But that's not what the site is doing. The footer contains the original, unaltered copyright, creating confusion as to who owns the derived work. Amazon does not own this, nor do they endorse…

oh no :o

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by isoprophlex »

junon wrote: post #86
taspeotis wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes mate, Internet Police Officer Jeff Bezos has been dispatched and will take this illegal website down right away. (Using copyrighted material is permitted under fair use; this website is a parody. I’m not a lawyer but at some level preserving the copyright notice is probably better than claiming it as their own.)

This website is not a parody, and fair use does NOT permit you to retain the original copyright notice on the derived work. You may say that the original work is copyright of the respective owners and that this is a parody work. But that's not what the site is doing. The footer contains the original, unaltered copyright, creating confusion as to who owns the derived work. Amazon does not own this, nor do they endorse…

Can you imagine that some might see your position as one of unmitigated pedantry unfitting in any discussion of this - clearly jocular - website?

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by omh2 »

300bps wrote: post #75

Can we please stop saying, “AWS is down”? AWS consists of over 200 services offered in 86 availability zones in 26 regions each with their own availability. If one service in one availability zone being impaired equals a post about “AWS is down” we might as well auto-post that every day.

AWS doesn't follow their own advice about hosting multi-regional so every time us-east-1 has significant issues pretty much every AZ and region is affected.

Specifically large parts of the management API, and IAM service are seemingly centrally hosted in us-east-1.

If your infrastructure is static you'll largely avoid the fallout, but if you rely on API calls or dynamically created resources you can get caught in the blast regardless of region

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by willcipriano »

junon wrote: post #86
taspeotis wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes mate, Internet Police Officer Jeff Bezos has been dispatched and will take this illegal website down right away. (Using copyrighted material is permitted under fair use; this website is a parody. I’m not a lawyer but at some level preserving the copyright notice is probably better than claiming it as their own.)

This website is not a parody, and fair use does NOT permit you to retain the original copyright notice on the derived work. You may say that the original work is copyright of the respective owners and that this is a parody work. But that's not what the site is doing. The footer contains the original, unaltered copyright, creating confusion as to who owns the derived work. Amazon does not own this, nor do they endorse…

Let them sue. I see the headline now, "Amazon sues status page website for accurately reporting on outages". Followed by lots of people hosting mirrors to stop.lying.cloud and saying things like "We are all stop.lying.cloud now"

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by taf2 »

rswail wrote: post #59

So why are people not migrating out of us-east-1? Operating in ap-southeast, we weren't that affected by the us-east-1 down time, although our system is reasonably static and doesn't make lots of IAM calls (which seems to be a large SPOF from us-east-1).

latency. us-east-1 is positioned very nicely relative to many large businesses in North America and Europe. This gives you pretty good access to a very large percentage of the economies of the world with good latency... while not requiring you to architect your application around multiple regions...

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by flatiron »

fivea wrote: post #74
throwaway984393 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if we should say "AWS is down" if only us-east-1 is down. That region is more unstable than Marjorie Taylor Greene on a one-legged stool.

> I'm not sure if we should say "AWS is down" if only us-east-1 is down. The thing is, us-east-1 represents the whole AWS for the majority of us.

Can you expand on that? What feature do you use in east 1 that isn’t everywhere else that it’s your whole implementation?
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