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It’s not a crime, since the advertising includes OTA as a feature and it’s not criminal to remove functionality from a previously-sold device.
"It’s not a crime, since the advertising includes OTA as a feature" My car includes free service as a feature, that doesn't mean they can take off the wheels while I sleep and call it 'service'. Similarly I don't think any reasonable person or judge will agree bricking a device is called 'update'.
Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022
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Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022
#112Oh Google... People do not care when it was introduced - people care for support from the time when the last one got sold!
The TP-Link OnHub is still for sale on Newegg right now. I don't see how Google can control the behavior of retailers of 3rd-party hardware.
Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dunno, I'd have to do a TCO analysis; if they give you 40% off, and you just assume it'll die after X years but be fully supported for that time and then you upgrade to a faster unit with next-gen wifi or whatever, it could still work out to be a good deal. Like... not my cup of tea (TCO is even nicer when the unit's lifespan is indefinite), but it's a plausible tradeoff.
>and then you upgrade to a faster unit with next-gen wifi or whatever Do people actually need next-gen wifi? My impression is that 99.9+% of people would be well served by a mid-range 802.11ac router (eg. AC1750[1]) from years ago, because the most bandwidth intensive thing they do is watch 4k netflix (~25 Mb/s). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac-2013
Streaming VR to a wireless headset (SteamVR on Oculus Quest) is generally considered to require Wifi 6, though that is admittedly a niche use currently.
Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022
#114At the risk of sounding cynical, I will say that anyone buying a router from Google should have known exactly what to expect. That was the reason I sold (for a symbolic price) my Chromecast Audio years ago, the integration was getting increasingly unreliable in Android, and I was afraid that the next step would have been to shut down its servers entirely
Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022
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I probably will. The OnHub has performed substantially better than the other consumer wireless routers I've used, and after 5 years it's due to be replaced anyway. Might as well take the discount.
Make sure you check out some of the other "pro-sumer" lines first. I moved from a flaky consumer router which dropped Wifi all the time to a Ubiquiti which has been rock solid. I'm not recommending Ubiquiti specifically given recent events but just using it as an example of a prosumer brand, even a few years old now and it still gets firmware updates, where as my old consumer router would be lucky to get any updates…
Unless you enjoy networking as a hobby, I would worry with that strategy that there is a sizeable risk of wasting your time with unreliable devices, with ongoing maintenance work, or having to rework your network in a few years.
My current solution is to buy Unifi UAP-AC-LR (~120USD) and configure it as an access point using the “Unifi Network” app from my phone, and hopefully never touch it again. I have done this at friends, and fixed their WiFi woes, without requiring much of my time (occasional complaints that the WiFi isn’t working, but not due to the device*, just ISP or router issues). Easy to plug the AP into a new router if you change ISP or move houses.
* Well, one device just stopped working with a hardware fault: I think due to being installed in a very hot area. I haven’t had software issues or flakiness. Flakiness is my previous experience of prosumer devices and what I most want to avoid.
Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022
#116Abstractly bogus, but on a rational analysis my TP-Link OnHub has already lasted wayyyyyyy longer than any other access point I've ever owned. Its predecessor, an ASUS RT-N66U, lasted barely two years.
Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I probably will. The OnHub has performed substantially better than the other consumer wireless routers I've used, and after 5 years it's due to be replaced anyway. Might as well take the discount.
I would suggest taking a look at synology. The 2600ac is going on 6 years old and about to get the latest feature release (1.3) with no immediate plans to eol it. And unlike Google they have a long history of LTS.
Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022
#118This bodes well for their flailing cloud gaming service, Stadia.
Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
I probably will. The OnHub has performed substantially better than the other consumer wireless routers I've used, and after 5 years it's due to be replaced anyway. Might as well take the discount.
Is five years enough? For you maybe. I think it is nothing like enough. My guitar amplifier is about twenty years old. My house is thirty and will probably make it to 300 (climate catastrophes wiling) I do not buy Google products, if I did I would stop.
This whole wireless internet thing is pretty recent and is getting increasingly better every year.
Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022
#120And that is why the very first thing every new WiFi router in my household gets is a fresh installation of OpenWRT in place of whatever vendor software it has. And I look at compatibility matrix before buying it. This strategy has worked very well. I upgrade on my terms.
Ditto; I only buy wireless hardware that can run openwrt on the day that I buy it. I may not flash it on that day, but I like to know that I can. My router is an x86 machine running opnsense.