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PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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> We introduced a zero- tolerance harassment policy and waived required arbitration of sexual harassment and discrimination claims. We have made significant commitments to increase gender diversity and are dedicating $250 million to accelerate opportunities for diverse talent across the industry.

“We made it easier to destroy someone’s career with false sexual harassment charges, and also we discriminate against the main gamedev demographic”.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I gather, this "Manifestv3" will change the permission system of browser extensions. Extensions won't be able to inject themselves into any website anymore, hence adblockers, which do this, won't function anymore. This may not be completely accurate, but I think is the gist of it. Maybe someone can correct me. The Chrome devs claim that this is to enhance user security, but I have my doubts about that.

> The Chrome devs claim that this is to enhance user security, but I have my doubts about that. Well, then it means they don't need to monitor their extension store for extensions doing bad things, I suppose it's part of the story.

An extension can steal personal data and manipulate pages with Manifest V3 APIs just like before, it does not become any harder for extensions to compromise browsers. There may be an argument that it becomes a bit less performant to execute the JS required to thoroughly compromise a browser, but I don't think such malware cares about microsecond performance losses.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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If you are on a Mac, I suggest that you try Orion browser (currently in beta) [1]. It is based on WebKit, with a custom port of web extensions API [2]. Not only that it runs Chrome and Firefox web extensions like uBlock Origin but we will be keeping support for Manifest v2. [1] https://browser.kagi.com [2] https://browser.kagi.com/WebExtensions-API-Support.html

I want to and put my email address on the website twice since this was posted on HN a few weeks ago. I never received even a confirmation that I was added to the waitlist let alone the actual invite for beta. Also what’s with sending out invites every 3 weeks? Without knowing the point from which you count 3 weeks, it’s pretty much useless information.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Time and time again I try to switch to Firefox. But it always seems to fall short (for me at least). I rely too much on separate profiles to disconnect work-related browsing from personal browsing. Separate bookmarks, sessions, browser plugins, sync preferences etc... A UI that's as powerful is literally all that is needed for me anyway. Its such a shame they've neglected the Profile Manager.

I know this doesn't address all of the points you brought up, but I heavily use Multi-Account Containers[1] to isolate social, work, shopping, etc. It works well, for me. I don't miss Chrome profiles. [1]: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers

And the experience is absolutely awful.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Time and time again I try to switch to Firefox. But it always seems to fall short (for me at least). I rely too much on separate profiles to disconnect work-related browsing from personal browsing. Separate bookmarks, sessions, browser plugins, sync preferences etc... A UI that's as powerful is literally all that is needed for me anyway. Its such a shame they've neglected the Profile Manager.

But Firefox has Tab Containers? They are (afaik) not fully fledged profiles but rather separated containers (cookies, history etc)

History is not separated by containers.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Contextual_Identity_Projec...

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is context based advertising. It is not personalized in that it has nothing to do with who you are. It is only based on what you do on the site. DuckDuckGo has been pretty successful with context based advertising --- based simply on the terms you search for.

Well what if you have a profile on the site where you've put your interests or gender or something?

It would be kinda hard for an individual web site to develop a meaningful profile of you. The major exception to this is Facebook where they profile you based on your personal posts and activity as well as all your friends.

Facebook and Google have a global reach. They have trackers and profilers on about 80% of the web sites.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#118

Time and time again I try to switch to Firefox. But it always seems to fall short (for me at least). I rely too much on separate profiles to disconnect work-related browsing from personal browsing. Separate bookmarks, sessions, browser plugins, sync preferences etc... A UI that's as powerful is literally all that is needed for me anyway. Its such a shame they've neglected the Profile Manager.

Agreed. While I love containers, they are not an equivalent because they do not separate out the bookmarks, history and sync profile. With Chrome I was able to have a Chrome Profile on my work laptop that syncs to one of the profiles on my desktop computer. The desktop computer had a separate profile for my personal browsing. It worked really well.

The firefox profiles work, but they're too bare bones to ACTUALLY be usable. A few major problems I've had are:

* No easy way to start firefox twice in two separate profiles, while having separate task bar icons (which can optionally be pinned) in Windows 10. I did eventually get it to work by mucking about with creating my own shortcuts, photoshopping the firefox icon, using separate themes on both, etc. On Chrome you can just click the profile manager icon and you're pretty much done.

* When firefox is running twice with separate profiles you can't easily change the default profile. So it's awkward to get links from other applications to open in the firefox instance you want.

* Speaking of, sometimes firefox would just give me the "Firefox is already running" dialog when clicking a link. Only fix I found was to terminate all firefox processes, start my two profiles again and then click the link again.

It would be lovely if firefox made the profiles easier to manage and switch between.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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post #113

If you are on a Mac, I suggest that you try Orion browser (currently in beta) [1]. It is based on WebKit, with a custom port of web extensions API [2]. Not only that it runs Chrome and Firefox web extensions like uBlock Origin but we will be keeping support for Manifest v2. [1] https://browser.kagi.com [2] https://browser.kagi.com/WebExtensions-API-Support.html

I want to and put my email address on the website twice since this was posted on HN a few weeks ago. I never received even a confirmation that I was added to the waitlist let alone the actual invite for beta. Also what’s with sending out invites every 3 weeks? Without knowing the point from which you count 3 weeks, it’s pretty much useless information.

The email with the download link says I can forward the invitation to anyone I think may be interested in Orion, so...

Download: https://browser.kagi.com/downloads/Orion.dmg

Report bugs: https://orionfeedback.org/

And I guess you can also give them your email if you want to feel better.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Time and time again I try to switch to Firefox. But it always seems to fall short (for me at least). I rely too much on separate profiles to disconnect work-related browsing from personal browsing. Separate bookmarks, sessions, browser plugins, sync preferences etc... A UI that's as powerful is literally all that is needed for me anyway. Its such a shame they've neglected the Profile Manager.

firefox -P [profile name] -no-remote EDIT: or, to bring up the profile manager: firefox -P -no-remote

Do that twice, running two firefoxes using two profiles, then click a link in a third application. This tends to try to launch a third firefox process which hangs for a while then says "application already running".

Okay, so you run one of them without no-remote. I had some issues with that, but it mostly works. Now how do you change the default profile? You completely stop firefox, update your shortcuts and finally, in my case, give up on using multiple profiles with firefox on a day to day basis.

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