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Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by Tempest1981 »

ochronus wrote: post #85
drcongo wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Safari for actual browsing because it's really unbeatable at it - very fast rendering, has tabs. I'd argue Chromium doesn't quite live up to that promise thanks to the horrible UI rendering and spectacular battery drain that it inherits from Chrome. Firefox I think does a nice compromise between being a good browser and having all that customisation stuff that the kids seem to like, but it does have a tiny hit…

I love Safari, too - my issue is that I use different OS's in parallel and not having bookmarks/settings sync is a big usability issue :/ so I'm stuck with Ungoogled Chromium, where I can at least solve for the bookmarks sync.

I like having separate sync for work vs home. So I use different browsers for each. Any other suggestions for keeping things separate?

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by Tempest1981 »

drcongo wrote: post #70
RussianCow wrote: post #64

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> a ton of unnecessary cognitive load that 0.1% of their users will find useful. Maybe it's been designed specifically for that 0.1%? There's nothing wrong with not catering to the masses.

Yeah, sorry, wasn't meaning to hate on Vivaldi. I'm sure it's great for those who want those features.

Usually folks on HN are mad when they cater to the masses and ignore the 0.1% power-users. Can't win.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by Tempest1981 »

zamadatix wrote: post #19
SwiftyBug wrote: post #8

I don't understand that obsession browser developers have with themes. To the point it's a highlight in a major version.

There is a bigger group of users that care about how cute/fun/whatever their browser looks than the group of users that care about engine improvements and new technology support.

As someone who has installed in dozens of custom fonts and themes for my IDE, there's a definite appeal!

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by KarlKemp »

PixyMisa wrote: post #43
ajhurliman wrote: post #40

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I'm using Brave on my iPhone right now.

Well, yes, except no. Brave on iOS is Webkit with a fancy wrapper.

A shitty wrapper. The answer to the question “why isn’t there another middleman between content and readers, scamming both?”

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by drewcoo »

freediver wrote: post #28

Congrats to Vivaldi! There is a good interview with Vivaldi founder on Tedium [1] where he basically says that because most browsers are built on Chromium nowadays, you have to innovate on features and that is the direction they took. And really the number of features in Vivaldi is staggering including some great ones like Tab Stacking and Tab Tiling. But adding this many features took a toll on performance and it is…

Low performance seems strange, given the perf culture at Opera. I assume they still beat a potato, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaT7thTxyq8

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by skrowl »

freediver wrote: post #41
therealmarv wrote: post #36

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There is not even one Chromium (or Firefox) based browser on iOS because it's not allowed to publish other browser engines on iOS!

To be more accurate there are no Blink or Gecko based browsers on iOS. Both Firefox and Chrome (and many other Chromium browsers) exist on iOS, using WebKit rendering engine.

Technically correct, but the Firefox and Chrome listed in the iOS lockdown store are basically just skins on top of WebKit, not actually different web browsers (like they are on Android and other modern operating systems).

It sounds like the EU and others may be fixing this soon by forcing Apple to allow other app stores on their devices if they want to continue selling devices in their regions.

Presumably Amazon store / Epic store / etc on iOS will carry real Firefox / Chrome.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by skrowl »

csomar wrote: post #97

I've been using Vivaldi for a few months now and basically forgot about Firefox. 1. Address Bar abd Tabs in the bottom without having to hack Firefox XUL/CSS. 2. Tabs. I have 7-8 stacks at any point. For example, I can start reading HN articles, leave the tabs open and them move to another stack for work, research, whatever. I have around 100+ tabs open at any time (and they consuming a little over 12Gb of memory). T…

Rather than tab stacks, try Firefox Containers + https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/conex/

It gives you the option to hide all tabs that aren't in your current container. The other advantage it gives over tab stacks in Vivaldi / Edge / Chrome is that they're actually containerized. Tabs in container A can't access anything from tabs in container B.

If you're running a device with low RAM, you can add https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/auto-tab-disc... with the option turned on to discard tabs as soon as they're hidden.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by Tsiklon »

the_other wrote: post #78
drcongo wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Safari for actual browsing because it's really unbeatable at it - very fast rendering, has tabs. I'd argue Chromium doesn't quite live up to that promise thanks to the horrible UI rendering and spectacular battery drain that it inherits from Chrome. Firefox I think does a nice compromise between being a good browser and having all that customisation stuff that the kids seem to like, but it does have a tiny hit…

Safari user here too. It's great. Admittedly, I'm fairly invested in the Apple ecosystem and enjoy my laptop and phone operating as two views on the same computing state, so I'm biased... but Safari renders very nicely, has minimal UI, runs fast and I like it a lot. I'm not looking forward to the Monterey tab design tho' when I eventually have to upgrade to a "current"-ish version.

The new tab design is entirely optional on Monterey, the reception to it was that bad. I personally don’t use the new tab design on the desktop. But I do use the new tab design on iOS (which conveniently moves the address bar to the bottom of the screen)

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by rpdillon »

wejick wrote: post #88
pixelgeek wrote: post #81

So two questions for the groupmind here. 1) I asked this previously but is it really that difficult to take a screenshot on Windows? "Vivaldi’s built-in Capture tool lets you capture either a Full Page screenshot, or a Selection of the screen that you define. It can be accessed in a number of ways through the Vivaldi UI to give you flexibility in how you implement the tool." 2) The fully loaded version of the browser…

I personally can't live without Firefox capture functionality. Control + shift + S. Very convenient. It may be similar situation for vivaldi user.

Yes! The ability to hover over parts of the DOM and grab screenshots is a big upgrade from the built-in OS functionality on Mac and Linux, since it removes the fiddling I normally have to do to grab the optimal region. I don't use Windows, so I'm not sure about the comparison there.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by pndy »

The ability to set texture beneath tabs bar and have it colored according to either theme color or site accent color remains still broken, since few major versions already. Shame because I really liked that little feature; despite of my reports, nobody dared to see what's up with this issue.

Overall, it's a really good browser that fits my needs with few extensions. I've moved to Vivaldi after Firefox released version 60 - my heavily customized profile was damaged beyond recovery; luckily I had already bookmarks backed up and passwords stored outside.

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