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Re: Steve Simon announces WTA’s decision to suspend tournaments in China

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Post by davidjytang » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 4:20 PM UTC

burntbridge wrote: post #98

nobody9999 wrote: post #61

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>Taiwan is not recognized as an independent nation by the U.S. While that might have some relevance in the US, I'd be more inclined to ask the Taiwanese if they are an independent nation. AFAIK, they believe so. Should the Taiwanese be subject to the whims of the US? Or of the CCP, for that matter? I think not.

Taiwan claims that it is China. So its territorial claims encompass all of existing mainland China and actually bits of India and other countries as well. They claim the CCP has been too soft on maintaining Chinese territorial sovereignty. So ironically the Government in Taiwan is actually more expansionist than the Government on the mainland.

Survey shows only 5% of people in Taiwan think they are Chinese and not Taiwanese. What you are referring to is the de jure side of things. Taiwan is a de facto sovereignty and doesn't not have border dispute with India or building islands in SCS.

> They claim the CCP has been too soft on maintaining Chinese territorial sovereignty.

Never heard.

Re: Steve Simon announces WTA’s decision to suspend tournaments in China

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Post by Jansen312 » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 8:49 PM UTC

hker wrote: post #83

Aunche wrote: post #31

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The difference is that that the WTA actually has leverage on China because China loses legitimacy in sports from this decision. No Chinese woman can ever be the best tennis player anymore. The NBA and John Cena actually have negative leverage on China. Both are purely American exports, so getting them banned in China only serves to widen the trade imbalance. China would love to find an excuse to do so.

In terms of leverage on China, I think Apple has a lot, since they employ a lot in China. Although the next question is, can they afford (of the order of) 1/3 of their revenue?

This is where we need to make Apple remember 2/3 can evaporate and make them worst off then losing 1/3. Yeah 2/3 won't go off completely. But so is that 1/3. The whole point is that as international community we need to vote properly with our wallets to make them behave. Apple cancelled? Now that is a trend that Steve wouldn't even thought of back then.

Re: Steve Simon announces WTA’s decision to suspend tournaments in China

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Post by ErikVandeWater » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 9:40 PM UTC

rkk3 wrote: post #91

ErikVandeWater wrote: post #35

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The NBA has orders of magnitude more leverage than women's tennis. There's a serious number of NBA fans in China who would be pissed if it were banned. > No Chinese woman can ever be the best tennis player anymore. China already struggles mightily in both men's and women's tennis. They don't have any player in men's or women's that cracks the top 100.

> China already struggles mightily in both men's and women's tennis. They don't have any player in men's or women's that cracks the top 100. bizarre thing to say given the story is literally about a former WTA #1 Chinese female doubles tennis player.

Go ahead and fact check me. I am referring to single's (far more popular).