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Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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They just lost me as an user. Used it as primary browser for a couple of years, but adding this NFT scam stuff and crypto has forced me off of it. sigh

Brave was all about crypto from the beginning: Basic Attention Token

As an early user of brave, it did not always have crypto functionality. That was bolted on later.

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

#112
post #91

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The high level points in this blog post do a pretty good job of explaining why web3 is worth paying attention to instead of dismissing as "NFT scam stuff and crypto". https://mirror.xyz/theodorachu.eth/TJU1w2Z49KvzcrKnPEwJodTvB...

lol everything in that blog posts screams "NFT scam stuff and crypto" - web3 == Amway for tech nerds who think they are really cool

Whoaaaa never thought about it like that! A wonderful analogy

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

#113
post #105

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> There in-app marketing messages are cringe-worthy[1] and there isn't a way to opt-out Aren't ads opt in?

This is a "push notification" style in-app message that I am calling an "Ad". I don't know what the correct terminology is within Brave's chrome.

Yeah, those are opt in. Go to settings - "Brave Rewards" to disable ads in push notifications.

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

#114
post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The high level points in this blog post do a pretty good job of explaining why web3 is worth paying attention to instead of dismissing as "NFT scam stuff and crypto". https://mirror.xyz/theodorachu.eth/TJU1w2Z49KvzcrKnPEwJodTvB...

lol everything in that blog posts screams "NFT scam stuff and crypto" - web3 == Amway for tech nerds who think they are really cool

This is a depressing handwave away of what is a pretty thoughtfully written post on the subject from someone who started from your position of skepticism.

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

#115
post #40

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I'm hearing this a lot, but why do you think NFTs are a scam?

I’m not the parent but I have some thoughts on this. I’m of the opinion that tokens when applied to digital art typically aren’t providing much value, aside from say bragging rights / social status since digital art can be copied and viewed without owning the token. One might argue that these tokens help pay artists but 1) if that’s all one cares about then donating to them directly will give them more money since tr…

> aside from say bragging rights / social status since digital art can be copied and viewed without owning the token

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Mona_Lis...

This is a pretty high resolution copy of the Mona Lisa. If I went to see it at the Louvre in person, I wouldn't be able to see this level of detail.

I've never even seen the thing with my own eyes, but I know it's a pretty big flex by the French that they own it.

The most common reaction I've heard from people that have seen it is that it's surprisingly small.

It was insured in 2021 for $870M.

> 1) if that’s all one cares about then donating to them directly will give them more money since transaction fees are cheaper

It's not about donating to the artist directly, exactly. It's about putting a value on their work, which is likely more valuable to the artist than a direction donation.

> 2), I haven’t looked into this directly, but it would seem token resale fees given to artists are not enforceable since they could be worked around by having a holding contract that gets traded instead.

Maybe, but if you ever need to "really" own the piece for some reason, you'd have to reconcile to mainnet anyway, and the artist would get paid then. Everything else is just a promise.

For example, even today, you may need a previous NFT by an artist to get in on a new drop from that artist.

> Now if they start to be used in some enforceable way such as in a DRMd display then this would be a form of underlying value but why not use a non DRMd display?

Actually, most artists want their work to be widely seen. This creates a virtuous cycle. You buy an artist's work, which increases the value of that work, which increase the artist's exposure, which increase the artist's perceived value, which increases the value of the work you purchased, which leads to more sales for the artist, etc.

Instead of a one-time donation, the fan becomes quite literally invested in the artist.

It's the same reason a musician might want to trend on TikTok by giving away 60 seconds of their song "for free" in the hopes to make it up on streaming, merch, ticket sales, and influence later.

> Then there is the more general trend of treating tokens like these as investments where the value gets driven up and, appears to me, detached from any sense of underlying value. So the only way for the sale value of these tokens to hold is to have some one else willing to buy it. But if there is no underlying value then it’s not clear to me how this can continue indefinitely.

I remember being much younger and seeing people buy toys, instruments, and curiosities "as an investment". Most of these didn't work out, but occasionally I see something from my childhood on ebay and think "oh, well, obviously that was going to be important, i should have bought a couple of those and put it away".

Time causes some things to crystalize and other things to fade into obscurity. I suspect the same will happen with these "original" era NFTs.

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

#116
post #53

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Your comment is arguably less useful, no? Arguably their comment is useful to Brave developers, assuming they care about user feedback.

Is there a proper forum for HN metadiscussion? My beef isn't with this comment specifically, but rather the low quality discussion that regularly occurs in crypto threads. In the best possible light, yes, it could be interpreted as criticism for the devs. As I read it, it seems like "I don't like crypto or NFTs so I'm leaving." Which again: perfectly reasonable sentiment. That's fine if it's how you feel. However, I…

Maybe it's not low-quality discussion in crypto threads, but rather a lack of high-quality discussion. Despite it's popularity, there are only a handful of people who are intimately familiar with how the blockchain works, the rest is mostly hype and Twitter campaigns for buying Bored Apes.

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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Why would someone use this over Metamask?

Why would someone use metamask? I read over the web site and I still don't know what it gets me over not having it.

Edit: Here are my guesses:

It's a crypto wallet?

It's an alt-dns?

It's a keystore?

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

#118

Did somebody with real practical experience switched away from Metamask to Brave Wallet? Just want to know how your experience was... does it work with all sorts of blockchains like Metamask?

I never had much luck with Brave’s crypto wallet. Most of the time it wasn’t recognized by sites and I had to switch to MetaMask anyway.

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

#119

I 'm thinking about switching to brave because of these built-in crypto (and thus identity) features, but the thing is , i don't want to block ads because i run ads on some of my own websites. To me, the crypto features of brave are more important than their adblocking , they are the future.

If you don’t block ads, Brave doesn’t give you much over using any other browser with MetaMask installed (and MetaMask is far more stable). The only additions are native Tor integration and ENS domain resolution, but you can get that through plugins to other browsers as well.

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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Some are and they are overfitting those cases to an entire technology. It's understandable to see that nuance get lost on Twitter, but disappointing to see on a tech forum. It's like discounting email because it enables nigerian prince scams.

Recently heard Tim Ferriss/Naval discussing NFTs on a podcast and while I'm open minded to its potential, I haven't seen any useful ones yet. That said I don't think they're any worse than trading for video game skins or MMORPG collectibles. For whatever reason humans can invent a scarcity free environment in video games/metaverses but feel compelled to create scarcity anyway.

ENS domains follow the nft interface.
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