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Re: Meta

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Post by losvedir »

fdgsdfogijq wrote: post #71

Honestly, I am dismayed by the negative reactions. Even if facebook fails at this, they will produce huge technical innovation. This is an expensive space, you need a big player willing to spend 10-20 billion on it. You need the technical resources and data. The end result will be a ton of open source and new know how in AR/VR. What a blessing!

I'm with you on this. I was an original backer of the Oculus on Kickstarter, and it's just mindblowing to see how far it's come to the Quest 2.

And while the original Oculus shows you what promise there is from a hacker in the garage, the Quest 2 shows you what can be done when significant capital is invested in development.

I bought a Quest for my little brother across the country, and hanging out in VR is pretty cool. I can definitely believe there's something here. I don't know if Meta will actually end up being the platform in the future, but I certainly think there will be a platform, it will be good in a lot of ways, and because of this frankly audacious move by Meta we'll be getting there sooner.

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#112

Post by ryandrake »

As much as I am not a FB fan, I give Zucc credit for dedicating an entire keynote to his vision of the future. What are all the other tech companies' visions for the future? Who knows! They never talk about the future. Apple almost never talks about anything more than a month away. Their vision of the future? Looks like it's probably: a brand new phone, similar to and released precisely one year after the previous one... forever and ever. What's Amazon's vision of the future? Continue N% YoY growth for online shopping and cloud...forever. Google's? Ads on moar surfaces...forever?

Zucc said this is our future vision for end users, here's what and why. Whether or not you like the idea or company, at least he stuck his neck out and articulated it.

Re: Meta

#113

Post by gfodor »

You can change the name, you can change the products, you can change the vision, hell, you can even change the CEO.

But until you change the business model, it's just shuffling deck chairs on a ship we're now, sadly, almost all passengers on.

Re: Meta

#114

Post by polytronic »

Meta is copying our work and our logo. I was the chief developer of MySoci.Net, featuring my own 3d graphics engine NthDimension (https://github.com/StylianosPolychroniadis/NthDimension) for its first version before moving on to Unity. You can check out MySoci.net at https://www.microsoft.com/el-gr/p/mysoci/9pbwts6pnb9r

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#115

Post by [deleted] »

ryandrake wrote: post #112

As much as I am not a FB fan, I give Zucc credit for dedicating an entire keynote to his vision of the future. What are all the other tech companies' visions for the future? Who knows! They never talk about the future. Apple almost never talks about anything more than a month away. Their vision of the future? Looks like it's probably: a brand new phone, similar to and released precisely one year after the previous on…

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Re: Meta

#116

Post by quantum_magpie »

monkeybutton wrote: post #54
zamalek wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> betting against a company with such a huge war chest is like trying to catch a falling knife. Indeed. My biggest fear is that succeed. I happen to prefer PCs (and there is no reason to argue for or against that). Apple has been incredibly successful at capturing market share and their devices are now mandatory at my new job. I might not like it, but it's not the end of the world: Apple behaves ethically. Now imagin…

Here's hoping Microsoft's HoloLense takes off in the corporate world.

Ugh. Here's hoping that all crapware VR crashes, burns, and takes down their host companies.

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#117

Post by kevinmchugh »

lsjvjn wrote: post #6

>The fact that Facebook is uniquely held responsible for the societal problems engendered by the Internet does, I suspect, stem from the fact that Zuckerberg is an obvious target. How many people concerned about anti-vax rhetoric, for example, can even name the person in charge of YouTube, a far more potent vector? This article makes a very cogent point: Zuckerberg has too much baggage with the general public and Met…

Zuckerberg controls a majority of voting shares in Meta, right?

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#119

Post by handrous »

mrkramer wrote: post #81
handrous wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most major tech companies seem to be betting that non-shit AR glasses aren't far off, and are prepping to be ready for that day 1. Big VR bets makes less sense to me. AR is the next smartphone. VR is the next... TV or workstation monitor, and even then, only for some use cases. Just seems like a much smaller opportunity.

VR is the next PC. "VR headset in every home" could be the next Microsoft like company mission and vision. I think for instance VR will have big impact in medicine and education but like I said it is decades away something like PC industry in 1970s.

Right, but my point is that the PC is kinda niche, itself, as a consumer product. "The next PC" is a very different prospect—and far more B2B—than "the next smartphone". It could still be pretty big, but it's always seemed to me like a weird place for Facebook, especially, to be investing. Best-case you also become "the next video game console", but consoles (+TVs) are so much more (locally, IRL) social than PCs that I wouldn't bet on that working out. Worst-case, companies focusing more on AR also crack the problem of making their glasses function for VR, and you can throw all your VR-only hardware investment in the trash (though some of the software would be salvageable, I assume).

Re: Meta

#120

Post by donclark »

ryandrake wrote: post #112

As much as I am not a FB fan, I give Zucc credit for dedicating an entire keynote to his vision of the future. What are all the other tech companies' visions for the future? Who knows! They never talk about the future. Apple almost never talks about anything more than a month away. Their vision of the future? Looks like it's probably: a brand new phone, similar to and released precisely one year after the previous on…

Agreed, but just like with Tesla (Elon Musk) is it more for marketing purposes? I get the actual intent with Tesla (Elon Musk). Not so with Zucc. Is Zucc playing a game that he is not showing us?
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