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Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by sofixa »

tonoto wrote: post #107
mikestew wrote: post #69

$100/year or else I "won’t unlock the full potential of (my) paper tablet" that I just paid $400 for? $60/year for cloud storage? What happened to connecting to the Dropbox/OneDrive/iCloud storage I already have and calling it day? Oh, right, recurring revenue. (EDIT: OIC, 3rd-party cloud storage is in the $100/year tier. But then WTF would I need your unlimited cloud...oh, never mind.) I've recently been trying to t…

I've been hesitating between remarkable or wait and jump onto pinenote. Remarkable seem to have taken that decision for me, in a remarkable way.

The PineNote is unlikely to be ready any time soon - the development devices will probably ship next year, and it might take years for the software to become stable and usable afterwards. For people who need something sooner, there are still multiple alternatives to Remarkable - Kobo, Onyx Boox, etc.

Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by sofixa »

kayodelycaon wrote: post #25
AstroDogCatcher wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do your own sync in a hacky manner - but if I were going down that route, I'd just choose one of the more open (and cheaper) alternative devices.

I'm in the market for alternatives. What equivalent devices are both cheaper and more open? I haven't found any. :(

The Onyx Boox series come in different sizes and are just Android with a custom launcher, and they're cheaper and with more choice (most notably regarding screen size).

Caution however, the company violates the GPL, which might be a deal-breaker for some.

Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by idorosen »

bborud wrote: post #110

reMarkable might do it for me if they had a more powerful CPU onboard and a way to get your code to run on it so the device can be tailored to solve more use-cases. I'm hesitant to say I want an app-store, because it implies a lot of stuff I don't want, but something like an app-store would make it a very different proposition. It would turn a single use device into a platform. It feels a bit silly to point this out…

They give you SSH root access to the device. There are many many apps people have developed for it, look for the reHackable GitHub repos.

(The SSH root password is in the help/about section where the open source licenses are listed.)

Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by AstroDogCatcher »

abhinav22 wrote: post #96
threefour wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a saying that for every trend there's an anti-trend. I do wonder when we'll reach a critical mass of subscription services such that a preference against subscriptions in general becomes a trend.

It’s hard because subscription services hit a sweet spot in human psychology - cheap on a monthly basis so many are happy (can you go back to paying 400$ for software unless it’s something you are 100% guaranteed to want and use for a long time), and expensive in the long run so businesses are happy (also recurring stable revenues) It’s unfortunate, but I don’t see a reversal any time soon. If I was a developer I wou…

I think we just need to be much more discerning about the added value from a subscription.

In the case of some SaaS tools I pay for (like Todoist), I don't resent the model because I've seen steady improvements and the cost is low enough relative to the value I feel like I get. If they increased the price more than ~20%, I would probably cancel and use an alternative.

Netflix is different; I actually don't watch much content and would happily live without it, but it appears to be good enough value during the times I do use it, particularly given that I'm well aware of how expensive their products are to create in the first place.

The problems with reMarkable here are two-fold. Firstly, the existence of any subscription is problematic when the device has such a high up-front cost. Secondly, the prices they have chosen far exceed the value their "extra" services can offer. If they had priced it at $12 per year I would have probably grumbled but accepted it. By $24 we are around my personal tipping point where I think they are being unreasonable and I want to get out of the ecosystem. The real price of around $96 is totally absurd and makes me actively root against the company, at least enough to write these long comments and post them into the void.

Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by KingOfCoders »

kayodelycaon wrote: post #67
KingOfCoders wrote: post #62

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What Android tablet with eInk did you buy that can display A4? Id be interested.

There is one actually. https://shop.boox.com/products/maxlumi2

Do you have experience with that one? Does it work with A4? The reMarkable works but could be slightly bigger for two-column A4 scientific papers.

Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by davidandgoliath »

paxys wrote: post #31

Charging for cloud storage is fine, but gating features like Dropbox sync, handwriting recognition and sending emails behind the "premium" tier monthly subscription is ridiculous. If a $50 tablet can do all this out of the box, a $450+ one should as well, especially when it is sold specifically for the purpose of note taking.

Wild. Mine has only proved so useful, but I definitely won't be upgrading to future ones with these changes.

Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by bborud »

idorosen wrote: post #113
bborud wrote: post #110

reMarkable might do it for me if they had a more powerful CPU onboard and a way to get your code to run on it so the device can be tailored to solve more use-cases. I'm hesitant to say I want an app-store, because it implies a lot of stuff I don't want, but something like an app-store would make it a very different proposition. It would turn a single use device into a platform. It feels a bit silly to point this out…

They give you SSH root access to the device. There are many many apps people have developed for it, look for the reHackable GitHub repos. (The SSH root password is in the help/about section where the open source licenses are listed.)

If you are going to run third party code on the device there needs to be a bit more than a hackish way to upload software to the device.

My dad isn't going to SSH into a tablet.

"Feature phones" illustrated this. I wrote a few (very simple) apps for Symbian phones, and for Java Mobile Edition way back when. But there were good reasons why this never caught on and why I never bothered doing any serious development on them.

Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by echelon »

rPlayer6554 wrote: post #101
pedalpete wrote: post #82

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Can you provide a link or some details?

I'd like to see a source for this as well.

http://bbs.onyx-international.com/t/install-linux-or-alterna...

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/hl09g7/onyx_boox_chi...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23735962

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277431

https://old.reddit.com/r/Onyx_Boox/comments/hsn7kx/onyx_usin...

Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by fragmede »

marifjeren wrote: post #90
monkmartinez wrote: post #9

Totally lame. I have tried so many note taking services and apps that my head spins when I think about it. Notion, Notability, OneNote, Evernote, Apple Notes, Google Keep, Squid, and more... At this point, I am 100% OneNote and a physical paper notebook. I use OneNote on every single device I own including a Raspberry Pi. I use the handwriting features of OneNote with an iPad pro to sketch ideas while researching. I…

Why did you write that as EVERY.DEVICE.I.OWN? Does that refer to something besides its literal meaning?

It's for emphasis. You might see this stylized as with the hand clap emoji between words in other contexts. HN isn't advanced though to support emoji, however.
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