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> Why don't you have enough trucks? This is addressed later in the thread. Normally, many trucks haul containers to their destination, unload the container, then return it empty to the port, pull it off the trailer, and haul away another loaded container. But the port is too full to accept empty containers, and zoning laws mean truck companies have already maxed out their own container holding areas. This leaves enor…
Would it make sense to clear the jam by scrapping some of empty containers for steel recycling?
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have to be really careful when citing numbers like these. A typical American "manufacturing" firm primarily does design and supply chain management, with the actual physical task of production and assembly outsourced. So if they can get the foreign production for $100 and they sell the product for $300, then their design and supply chain management is worth $200 and we say that the US has a strong manufacturing b…
>The moment the suppliers can set up their own shop or sell enough IP to local rivals, they will be able to sell the identical good for $150... That's what I am looking forward to! What is so special about manufacturing? What would be wrong with assembly-line workers going the way of farm workers? 14 million farm workers in 1910. 3 million today. Tragedy? https://www.nass.usda.gov/Charts_and_Maps/Farm_Labor/fl_frmw..…
That's a good question. The answer is that it drives productivity growth. Most of the economy does not increase in productivity at all. Your haircutter or waiter is not more productive than a haircutter or waiter in the 1800s. But they make much more per hour because of cost-disease as they attach themselves to industries where one hour of labor can produce exponentially more output. So you have 20% of the economy driving basically all of the economic growth and productivity gains, and the wage growth of everyone else is dependent on this 20% doing really well. Therefore some nations, like China, are willing to fight for those manufacturing industries, even as other nations, like the US, think they can maintain advanced status if their workforce consists of marketing executives and baristas. They think IP protections will keep those marketing executives earning huge bonuses and then that will support spending more on each espresso. Long term, this is not a viable plan, even if it works well in the short term.
> 14 million farm workers in 1910. 3 million today. Tragedy?
No, that's productivity gains. But we are still farming and producing that food. The equivalent would be if the US got out of the farming business and turned to designing genetically engineered seeds. Let all those other nations grow food, we will do the high value stuff and outsource the actual growing-of-things. Well, OK, until other nations decide to stop paying licensing fees or switch to their own designs. Then not being able to grow things would really hurt us. Same for not being able to make things and turning to just designing stuff.
When a nation loses their increasing returns to scale industries is when economic growth stops.
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Can you name Chinese products (made in China by and for Chinese companies -- not American or European companies) that you consider to be of high quality? Same for South America. And what American products have "constantly" disappointed you?
This. There are different levels of Chinese manufacturing. One made for top Europe and American brands that are good quality while others is the utter junk that floods the Asia Pacific.
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#114Related: The mayor of Long Beach has increased the stacking limit. https://mobile.twitter.com/RobertGarcia/status/1451679404757...
It's weird to me that thousands of people work at the docks or with the trucks, and likely understand these problems quite well, but only after a silicon valley guy rented a boat to take a look and tweeted about it did it come to attention of the larger world. Is it just that these other people don't want to "rock the boat" at their place of employment?
An outsider taking nothing as granted can often find big inefficiencies.
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Would it make sense to clear the jam by scrapping some of empty containers for steel recycling?
Empty containers are worth a lot in East Asia right now, just not in US ports or distributor points. It’s a misallocation, not a global oversupply problem
How much is a train ride up to the Port of Oakland? Less than $5k per rail car? Probably a lot less. So some enterprising person in Asia could organize that and get them on a ship heading back faster than their competitors, reducing their cost and gaining a competitive advantage at the same time. So why isn’t that happening?
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#116Buttigieg should have been on that boat. But, as has become a custom lately, he's MIA, just like VP is MIA at the border. Not the worst outcome though - he could also be actively harmful like, say, Mayorkas.
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#117Does this person actually know what the problem is? For example see https://news.yahoo.com/lazy-crane-operators-making-250-20010... . The symptom might be not enough space for containers, but the root cause could be something a few degrees removed, or a combination of things.
Historical rates of arriving containers to the port, leaving the port, time spent at the port, time spent in yards, number of drivers, number of trucks, etc.
High level, throughput was lost somewhere, or there's more volume, or maybe both.
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#118Re: Flexport CEO on how to fix the US supply chain crisis
#119The real bottleneck is customs. The government works slow.
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#120I'm not sure I agree with the conclusions in this thread. >It seems that everyone now agrees that the bottleneck is yard space at the container terminals. The terminals are simply overflowing with containers, which means they no longer have space to take in new containers either from ships or land. It’s a true traffic jam This seems like definitely not the real bottleneck. You have to ask yourself, "why is there no s…
Just saying “give truck drivers more compensation and better working conditions” doesn’t fix the fact that their destinations aren’t open 24/7 so keeping the ports open for an extra shift doesn’t do much right now.
It doesn’t fix the fact that the truck driver depends on someone else to take their container and/or chassis at the end of a delivery and many delivery depots can’t or won’t right now.
And the biggest asymmetry right now has nothing directly to do with truck drivers. There is a shortage of empty containers in East Asia and a glut in the US. Container ships aren’t waiting in the US ports to load up with empty containers, so thyme are exacerbating the issue.