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Let me tell you how this design is dysfunctional : It puts a piece of hardware that many people don't even use regularly in a very prominent place, in a way that many people find disturbing and unappealing. The UI needs to accommodate for this ("looks great in dark mode") to lessen the impact. The best thing you can say about it is "it's not that noticable" and "you'll get used to it". There's another foolproof way t…

> It puts a piece of hardware that many people don't even use regularly in a very prominent place… Perhaps you’ve heard of this “pandemic” thing where an absurd number of professionals are working remotely and participating in virtual meetings? > …in a way that many people find disturbing and unappealing. But that the clearly overwhelming majority—if the iPhone is any evidence—simply do not notice enough to care abou…

> Perhaps you’ve heard of this “pandemic” thing where an absurd number of professionals are working remotely and participating in virtual meetings?

Perhaps, but having cameras on during a teleconference is counter-productive.

> But that the clearly overwhelming majority—if the iPhone is any evidence—simply do not notice enough to care about. iPhones with the notch have continued to sell in record-setting numbers, despite your own personal sensibilities.

I use an iPhone. I hate the notch. It doesn't bother me enough to switch platforms after a decade of iPhone usage, or getting an outdated iPhone, but it does bother me. With every new iPhone release, people like me are awaiting the end of the notch. Apple doubling down on this nonsense tells me: The notch is here to stay. They're trying to turn a flaw into brand identity. It's working, at least on people like you.

> The best thing I can say about it is that it’s a phenomenally well-executed compromise...

The reality distortion field at work. They could have made the notch massively smaller. They didn't because that notch is part of the brand. They could have just shrunk the bezel a tiny bit less to accomodate for a camera. They didn't, because again, they'd rather make it about the brand. The screen real estate argument is bogus. If that screen estate made a difference, they could've made the thing just a tiny bit larger.

> You are one quick Google search away from enlightenment, friend.

I'm not saying nobody ever copied it. I'm saying nobody is (still) copying it. It has been tested on the market, and the market said: No. Nobody wants a notch.

Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Yes, have a slightly larger Bezel instead of a huge unappealing notch. Did I mention how much I do not like the notch? Look in any of the comments sections of this new product, how many people are commenting on how this notch is off-putting? Does it seem like a worthy tradeoff? I do not think so.

Literally everyone, besides you, in this HN thread is commenting on how it's a good solution and gives more screen real estate while maintaining the aspect ratio. The only people complaining about it, including you, haven't really specified what about it is unappealing.

My comment is the most up-voted comment. Multiple people complain about the notch in this thread. There's no point in explaining why it looks bad, because if you don't see it, no explanation will make you see it. You are immune to it. Good for you. I'm not saying you should find it ugly.

Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Here's more comical discussion of the XPS camera: https://www.dell.com/community/XPS/XPS-15-9500-camera-webcam... "This webcam is disgusting. They won’t admit it when you call. They keep telling you to install drivers and redo every install you have." "It's the image sensor they went with... Bottom of the barrel $0.52 sensor. I'm skipping this generation of XPS entirely and keeping with my Macbook Pro for a number of…

Macbook cameras are awful as well. That's besides the point. It doesn't mean it "can't be done". You could have a 4K front-facing camera in a tiny pinhole, like in many Android phones. It's just not something laptop makers put a focus on, because customers tend to not care, or at least they didn't until video-conferencing became ubiquitous.

> That's besides the point

No, the point I was making at the beginning was "it's a design tradeoff, not a gimmick". The macbook camera is leaps and bounds better than the super tiny XPS camera they used to achieve a notch-free slim bezel. The notch isn't a gimmick. They made a design tradeoff to avoid going to a terrible camera.

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