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Re: Samsung Foundry Forum announcements

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Post by zibzab »

ksec wrote: post #84
MangoCoffee wrote: post #41

> process technology migration to 3- and 2-nanometer (nm) based on the company’s Gate-All-Around (GAA) transistor structure I believe GAA is the next gen tech for the node process. Samsung is the first foundry to do GAA w/3nm while TSMC is sticking w/FinFET for their 3nm. It'll be interesting to see how 3nm FinFET compare to 3nm GAA. https://www.anandtech.com/show/16041/where-are-my-gaafets-ts... edit: >After that, t…

I want to add some context for those who dont follow Semi closely. Samsung Foundry have a history of over promise and under deliver. This 3nm launch will likely be similar to their EUV node which they claim to be industry first but wasn't shipping in any real volume. So arguably they are not lying, but it is a marketing spin. TSMC is an extremely pragmatic company. It either work or it doesn't, there is no need to sa…

Counterpoint:

What is the point of having the best tech in 2021 if all capacity is allocated to a single customer?

Re: Samsung Foundry Forum announcements

#112

Post by zibzab »

nicoburns wrote: post #106
Lio wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try saying no to the new iCloud terms and conditions. The options are “I agree to everything” or “Keep bugging me until I agree to everything”.

You can at least turn off iCloud entirely on Apple devices. I have never enabled iCloud and I only get these screens when I update the OS to a new version.

> turn off iCloud entirely

Then what's the point of using an iPhone?

Re: Samsung Foundry Forum announcements

#113

Post by 1-6 »

ksec wrote: post #84
MangoCoffee wrote: post #41

> process technology migration to 3- and 2-nanometer (nm) based on the company’s Gate-All-Around (GAA) transistor structure I believe GAA is the next gen tech for the node process. Samsung is the first foundry to do GAA w/3nm while TSMC is sticking w/FinFET for their 3nm. It'll be interesting to see how 3nm FinFET compare to 3nm GAA. https://www.anandtech.com/show/16041/where-are-my-gaafets-ts... edit: >After that, t…

I want to add some context for those who dont follow Semi closely. Samsung Foundry have a history of over promise and under deliver. This 3nm launch will likely be similar to their EUV node which they claim to be industry first but wasn't shipping in any real volume. So arguably they are not lying, but it is a marketing spin. TSMC is an extremely pragmatic company. It either work or it doesn't, there is no need to sa…

> TSMC is an extremely pragmatic company.

After listening into their earnings call, their CEO really pushes aside quick profits (such as raising prices) and prefers long-term stability and keeping their existing clients happy. The investors wanted TSMC to raise chip prices and expand their operations.

Re: Samsung Foundry Forum announcements

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Post by hajile »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #41

> process technology migration to 3- and 2-nanometer (nm) based on the company’s Gate-All-Around (GAA) transistor structure I believe GAA is the next gen tech for the node process. Samsung is the first foundry to do GAA w/3nm while TSMC is sticking w/FinFET for their 3nm. It'll be interesting to see how 3nm FinFET compare to 3nm GAA. https://www.anandtech.com/show/16041/where-are-my-gaafets-ts... edit: >After that, t…

Intel's switch to FinFET was equivalent to almost 2 node jumps. If they nail GAA, then it will probably be much better, but it will also be enormously more expensive to produce the chips.

Intel has loads of cash and would pay that money in a second, but I suspect that most other companies would rather hold off a bit longer in exchange for much cheaper products.

Re: Samsung Foundry Forum announcements

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Post by hajile »

p1necone wrote: post #44
1-6 wrote: post #20

Samsung has a dishonorable marketing department. 3nm is not actually 3nm. I'm fed up... OLED is superior so they had to take the path of calling theirs QLED which is actually just an LCD screen with phosphors on top of a blue backlight (and it's nothing new).

I agree calling their display tech QLED is pretty shady, and clearly just intended to confuse people. But I'm glad their high end display tech is not OLED yet, because nobody seems to have solved burn in satisfactorily yet (if you play a lot of games or use them with a PC).

I'm really starting to believe that mini-LED displays are generally better for long-term use.

Re: Samsung Foundry Forum announcements

#117

Post by imtringued »

1-6 wrote: post #20

Samsung has a dishonorable marketing department. 3nm is not actually 3nm. I'm fed up... OLED is superior so they had to take the path of calling theirs QLED which is actually just an LCD screen with phosphors on top of a blue backlight (and it's nothing new).

3nm means the process is equivalent in density and performance to a 3nm planar transistor that Samsung designed. I don't see how that is dishonorable marketing because every company designed their own reference planar transistors.

Re: Samsung Foundry Forum announcements

#118

Post by short12 »

benatkin wrote: post #70
rendall wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their high-end phones have such dark patterns that I will flat-out not buy Samsung anything. Even if you pay [€$]1000+ for one of their Smart Phones, you can look forward to: * Uninstallable cruft, as if they were a telcom and you were on a contract and had not just handed over a grand * ...like a confusingly-similar-looking competitor to Google Contacts that will upload your info to their servers * GDPR? LOL * A har…

Google uploads to their servers. They aren't anointed. You can turn off sync. Same as Google. Samsung software isn't worse than Apple or Google IMO.

It is far worse than the Google and apple experience. They routinely make inferior versions of an app that would be redicously easy to clone. They need to realize they are a hardware company, not a software company

And that goes for all of their product lines across the board. It's all garbage software. Its a shame they intentionally cripple excellent hardware with crap

Until they stop that practice they are not even a potential option for me. I don't get why they can't save the money and just make a good pure Android experience

Re: Samsung Foundry Forum announcements

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Post by ksec »

zibzab wrote: post #111
ksec wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to add some context for those who dont follow Semi closely. Samsung Foundry have a history of over promise and under deliver. This 3nm launch will likely be similar to their EUV node which they claim to be industry first but wasn't shipping in any real volume. So arguably they are not lying, but it is a marketing spin. TSMC is an extremely pragmatic company. It either work or it doesn't, there is no need to sa…

Counterpoint: What is the point of having the best tech in 2021 if all capacity is allocated to a single customer?

Because that single customer paid in advance and book those capacity?

That is how it works in literally all other industry supply chain.

Re: Samsung Foundry Forum announcements

#120

Post by rendall »

MikusR wrote: post #98
rendall wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their high-end phones have such dark patterns that I will flat-out not buy Samsung anything. Even if you pay [€$]1000+ for one of their Smart Phones, you can look forward to: * Uninstallable cruft, as if they were a telcom and you were on a contract and had not just handed over a grand * ...like a confusingly-similar-looking competitor to Google Contacts that will upload your info to their servers * GDPR? LOL * A har…

Google Contacts is a confusingly-similar-looking competitor to Samsung contacts.

I can take Google Contacts off my phone, while I cannot remove Samsung Contacts
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