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Re: The Tech Worker Handbook

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>it seems to misidentify the people who the actions are hurting. Huh? How so? How does acknowledging that people of conscience may be distressed and appalled at the harm their company is doing (making their workplace an uncomfortable place) diminish recognition of that harm? I'm not suggesting that we should care only about such workers, I'm suggesting that should care about everyone . Why is that, in your view, inap…

It makes light of the personal responsibility that they have for the things that they do

>It makes light of the personal responsibility that they have for the things that they do

I take your point, and it is a valid one.

That said, there's a continuum here. Let's take Clearview AI[0] as an example. The end result of Clearview's activities are absolutely harmful, and I personally wouldn't work for them.

At the same time, not every employee (tech staff or not) is as culpable for the harms caused by Clearview AI's products as others.

What's more, each individual's situation informs their level of comfort/need WRT their employment. Is the dev responsible for front-end UI as culpable as the dev working on the actual facial recognition back end? How about the sales/marketing folks who approach governments and corporations to use their products?

If you have the means/ability to move away from an employer who is causing harm, assuming you see the harm (as the old saw goes, "it's hard to make someone understand something that their paycheck depends on them not understanding.") at all.

Clearview AI is an extreme example, selected specifically for that reason. but in many other cases, "harm" isn't as clear cut. Uber and GrubHub are great examples of that.

Those companies, in some cases, do provide some value, but they do so by extracting (in my view) a level of profit both undeserved based on the service provided, and exploitative of those actually providing real value (rides, food service and deliveries).

Is every Uber or GrubHub employee responsible for that? Should we blacklist them for shirking their "personal responsibility"?

As I said, I take your point, and it is valid it a bunch of cases. But I think there's a continuum here that you're ignoring. Perhaps I misunderstand you, in which case my apologies. If you'd care to expand on your point, I think it would add to the discussion.

[0] https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/4/22266055/clearview-facial-...

Re: The Tech Worker Handbook

#112

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The Senate subcommittee also made quite clear that they'd be protecting Haugen against any legal, or other, threats, in yesterday's testimony. How substantive that promise is I'm not sure, but i was made and is part of the record. I strongly encourage listening if you have the time. Excellent information and discussion. https://youtube.com/watch?v=GOnpVQnv5Cw

According to WSJ, her NDA permits disclosure to Congress, regulatory bodies like the SEC, and law enforcement. The disclosure to the press (the public) however is a different question. Transcript as alternative to YouTube https://archive.org/details/CSPAN_20211006_050100_Facebook_W...

How likely is it that Congress or any regulatory body would be asking for whistleblowers if none ever talked to the press?

Press is the fourth estate, even if news as a profit center has tainted their motives of late.

Re: The Tech Worker Handbook

#113

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To be fair, some have said this leaker from Facebook is quite vulnerable to being sued or even prosecuted and are probably wondering why Facebook is not taking legal action against her. The most obvious guess is that she is effectively protected by the press that Facebook is receiving at the moment. Without that publicity, i.e., the help of "conflicted" journalists, her legal arguments for protection seem rather weak…

I think she didn't leak novelties. Most of it is common sense or already known. She is protected by the Democrats who want to install Internet censors at strategic corporations. Then the Democrats control all mainstream media and the mainstream web. The big actual problem is of course massive data collection on everyone. That should be addressed, but won't, because the swamp needs the data.

Do you honestly view this as a partisan effort? There’s definitely a bipartisan interest in reining in “Big Tech,” though the rationales differ.

When a corporation begins to infringe on a government’s ability to manage its citizens you can be sure that there will be a concerted effort to limit those efforts.

Re: The Tech Worker Handbook

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This seems pretty fluffy. I read through the "Legal Handbook" and it doesn't seem as much like a handbook as it does a long article about what it's like to be a whistleblower, along with some very high level stuff about what it's like to engage a lawyer. Like, a really basic thing here is that the legal advice starts by asking people to evaluate whether the misconduct they're thinking about violates laws. But it prov…

Looking around the site, the handbook is by Ifeoma Ozoma, one of the Pinterest "whistleblowers" who went on a raging PR campaign and (seemingly) has now parlayed it into this consulting company. And here's what they're doing. It's utterly unserious content by a grievance-driven person.

> grievance-driven person

Radical solution: don't discriminate against people at work and then they won't have any grievances.

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